Re: Netbeans in education

Hi,
I agree with Blasius, also would like to add, that also the advantage
with NetBeans, since it's like a little lego set, it's also cool for 
the students to write modules to plug in to NetBeans, and also to hack
the NetBeans Platform and play with it and understand a more
complicating code.

Also, I would like to ask Remco, are you a student or a professor?

George




Blasius Lofi Dewanto wrote:
> 
> I think this is the real power of NetBeans.
> NetBeans is implemented as a real
> component-oriented IDE. So you can just
> de-install the components you don't want
> your students to use and re-package it.
> After all this is the advantage of using
> an open source Java-IDE.
> 
> It's important to let freshmen students using
> javac on the command prompt (not only by clicking
> the compile icon) to understand the process
> itself. This is for sure. But after a while they also
> should enjoy the fun of assembling a Java GUI with
> drag&drop capability of NetBeans. The only
> disadvantage of NetBeans is that you don't
> have a true "two-ways-views" between the GUI code
> and the GUI designer. This two-ways-views could help
> them to understand the coding of GUI in Java a lot.
> 
> Depending on the subject you are teaching, going back
> to the notepad is not a solution. I think, the students
> nowadays don't have to experience the "old" time as
> I had to work with notepad and command prompt at
> my first year. They have to continue searching
> for some new ideas and expand their knowledge.
> They should not look back at the ancient time of
> programming...
> 
> Best regards,
> --
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> Blasius Lofi Dewanto
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> 
> > If Netbeans wants to become more widely used in education, it's not a
> > matter of what it needs, it's more a matter of what it doesn't need. The
> >   standard release right now is very much feature driven, with students
> > new to Java 'drowning' in IDE functionality.
> > At my university, the tendency now is to get rid of the IDEs again
> > (after having used VisualCafe for 4 years in first year computer science
> > education), returning back to Notepad.
> > A freshman student who has to become familiar with the basics of
> > programming really doesn't need JSP support, CVS support, etc.  I think
> > the release of a lite version of NetBeans with only the basic modules
> > included will be a good step in the right direction.
> 
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