Re: Apache proposal for NetBeans

Are you sure? Oracle did kill OpenOffice and then threw the dead
squirrel in someone else's backyard (Apache Foundation). I can't blame
them for that, though. Perhaps it didn't make sense for them
business-wise. What bothers me, is the PR BS they use, and allow me
show you the chronology:

http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/177158
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2514024/it-careers/contributors-blame-oracle-for-moves-to-abandon-openoffice-org.html
https://blogs.oracle.com/trond/entry/openofficeorg_to_become_a_pure

I'm not saying this is the case, but sounds suspicious.

On 9/13/16, Jason Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> For what it's worth, I think LibreOffice killed OpenOffice more than
> Oracle+Apache. :) I'm cautiously optimistic about this move. For what
> little that's worth.
>
>
> On 9/13/16 12:27 PM, geertjan wielenga wrote:
>>
>> Yup. For many (many) years, a variety of community members have wanted
>> more transparency and more say in the direction of NetBeans. Well,
>> with Apache that's exactly what you get. But with that comes
>> responsibility. We'll all co-own NetBeans and, yes, Oracle will be
>> involved, I believe, for a long time, probably in one way or another
>> for ever, though the community as a whole will need to step up now too.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On 13-9-2016 19:22, Wade Chandler wrote:
>>> I am very excited about the move myself. I think it will make
>>> contributing the the platform/core and the IDE easier for
>>> individuals, and Apache has a good track record overall.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>>
>>> ===================
>>>
>>> Wade Chandler
>>> e: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 13:14, geertjan wielenga
>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quite a few large Oracle products make use of the NetBeans Platform,
>>>> e.g. this is an important one:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.oracle.com/tools/developerstudio/index.html
>>>>
>>>> And those kind of tools are developed in NetBeans IDE. Also, several
>>>> large Oracle partners make use of the NetBeans Platform and NetBeans
>>>> IDE.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, we really do need to make use of this opportunity
>>>> and get everyone involved in one way or another, large or small, in
>>>> Apache NetBeans, to drive it forward together.
>>>>
>>>> Plus, working on a meaningful project like NetBeans is fun. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On 13-9-2016 19:10, Charles Bedon wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand I think it's good for
>>>>> the community and the product that the governance of the project does
>>>>> not rely mostly on a single company (even more on the unpredictable
>>>>> Oracle). But on the other hand, I'm afraid that, with time, NB follows
>>>>> the steps of OpenOffice. The NB community is big and a lot of
>>>>> companies have put serious money in NB-based projects, but it's clear
>>>>> that without a big name behind, the project may lose significant
>>>>> traction. I really hope this is not the case, but again, with Oracle,
>>>>> you never know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/13/16, geertjan wielenga <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A heads up -- we'd like to simplify and streamline the process of
>>>>>> contributing and being part of the NetBeans ecosystem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The current NetBeans governance model is quite opaque and
>>>>>> invisible and
>>>>>> we think having our project be an Apache project, like Apache
>>>>>> Maven and
>>>>>> Apache Groovy, is a sensible direction to that end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's the proposal published over the past hour:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take note of the many initial committers, which includes James
>>>>>> Gosling
>>>>>> (father of Java), a range of developers from various organizations,
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> well as a big group from Oracle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a LOT that needs to be done, though the proposal makes the
>>>>>> intentions clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Onwards to exciting times,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geertjan Wielenga
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://www.oracle.com>
>>>>>> Geertjan Wielenga | Principal Product Manager
>>>>>> Phone: +31620320056 <tel:+61386163956> |
>>>>>> OracleDeveloper Tools
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Netherlands
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>>>>>> practices and products that help protect the environment
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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