[TF-dev] Re: Call for ideas/topics - NetBeans community translation leads call
Paul Duan <[email protected]> Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:26:59 +0800
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Hi team,
I haven't received more comments after Robert's email, we need more=20
participants if we finally decide to do this call.
If you wish to attend, could you send me a note or respond to the alias,=20
with your preferred time?
Thanks,
Paul
On 2011-8-3 19:12, Robert Antoni wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Language teams may use Style Guides for translation, and announce its=20
> usage in their own wiki:
>
> * Using Style Guides :
> http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style+Guides
> * Language Style Guides :
> http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Language+Style+Guides
>
> PS: i.e. catalan style guide:=20
> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/gu=
ia_estil
> PS: i.e. common translations into catalan :=20
> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/ll=
istat_termes
>
> Regards,
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Filippo Mineo wrote:
>
> Hi Paul!
> I don't remember if you've ever heard from me, since I've been
> absent from the translation activities for a long time (at least
> more than a year for sure).
>
>
> > you have been doing all these in your spare time, in an
> unselfish manner, not to mention that for languages we have only a
> single translator, you are doing the work on your own, with no
> much help from others
> My situation is exactly the one you described. Unfortunately, I'm
> the only active Italian translator... oh well, the last who was
> active. I joined the NB l10n team in a period when the study
> wasn't as demanding as it is now.
>
>
> Constantin's ideas about the topics to be discussed are valid.
> However, he wrote:
> > Discuss about the internal teams functioning ( who is team
> leader , how many contributors by team, etc)
> but in many cases there is no "internal team", since everything is
> taken care of by a single person.
>
> If I had to explain briefly my opinion, I'd say that the problem
> consists mainly in the lack of sponsors for this project. When a
> language has a badly coordinated team (or even no team at all),
> the resulting translation is consequently bad. This happens
> because, even assuming all individuals' work quality is high,
> everyone follows his own lexicon and "translation style", so that
> the result becomes different when the underlying translator changes=
.
> Of course giving such local directives is not the global team's
> responsibility. Anyway, returning to the main topic, many problems
> could be solved if contributors where more (numerically) and more
> coordinated, so that the project could count on a less
> discontinuous involvement.
>
> Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative,
> frankly I prefer not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile, let's
> hear if there are other suggestions.
>
> Hoping to get back active soon,
> arrivederci!
>
> Filippo Mineo
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> FQN: Robert Antoni Buj Gelonch
> AKA: Robert Buj
>
> Advanced-level training cycle (ca: CFGS) in computer software=20
> engineering (ca: DAI) - les Heures, technical academy (SPA)
> Computer Science Engineer - University of Lleida (UDL), Lleida (SPA)
> Training course in Handel-C & DK design suite - Celoxica Ltd.,=20
> Abington (UK)
> Training course in Xilinx EDK & Microblaze - Autonomous University of=20
> Madrid (UAM), Madrid (SPA)
> Postgraduate Master's degree in .NET Solutions - Open University of=20
> Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)
> Postgraduate Master's degree in FOSS (Free and open source software)=20
> (upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)
> Postgraduate Master's degree in CS (Computer Science) & CEN (Computer=20
> engineering) (upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC),=20
> Barcelona (SPA)
>
> ca: M'agradaria millorar el m=F3n, per=F2 D=E9u no em d=F3na el codi fo=
nt!
> de: Ich w=FCrde gern die Welt verbessern, doch Gott gibt mir den=20
> Quellcode nicht!
> en: I would like to improve the world, but God didn't give me the=20
> source code!
> es: Me gustar=EDa mejorar el mundo, pero Dios no me da el c=F3digo fuen=
te!
>
> gpg fingerprint =3D DC2C C0E5 DD7C BB63 8775 AC67 5829 EBE1 9673 FCFD
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Hi team,<br>
<br>
I haven't received more comments after Robert's email, we need more
participants if we finally decide to do this call.<br>
<br>
If you wish to attend, could you send me a note or respond to the
alias, with your preferred time?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Paul<br>
<br>
On 2011-8-3 19:12, Robert Antoni wrote:
<blockquote
cite="mid:CANaJiRpDf2ZWexhuZf2r0T4axFEx2tBgcThh-gnP-3abQnPS2A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">
<div>Hi,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Language teams may use Style Guides for translation, and
announce its usage in their own wiki:</div>
<ul>
<li>Using Style Guides : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style+Guides">http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Using+Style+Guides</a></li>
<li>Language Style Guides : <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Language+Style+Guides">http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11nhome/Language+Style+Guides</a></li>
</ul>
<div>PS: i.e. catalan style guide: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/guia_estil">http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/guia_estil</a></div>
<div>PS: i.e. common translations into catalan : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/llistat_termes">http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+int_localization/llistat_termes</a></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Robert</div>
<div><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:48 AM,
Filippo Mineo wrote:<br>
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0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi Paul!<br>
I don't remember if you've ever heard from me, since I've
been absent from the translation activities for a long time
(at least more than a year for sure).
<div class="im"><br>
<br>
> you have been doing all these in your spare time, in
an unselfish manner, not to mention that for languages we
have only a single translator, you are doing the work on
your own, with no much help from others<br>
</div>
My situation is exactly the one you described.
Unfortunately, I'm the only active Italian translator... oh
well, the last who was active. I joined the NB l10n team in
a period when the study wasn't as demanding as it is now.
<div class="im">
<br>
<br>
Constantin's ideas about the topics to be discussed are
valid. However, he wrote:<br>
> Discuss about the internal teams functioning ( who is
team leader , how many contributors by team, etc)<br>
</div>
but in many cases there is no "internal team", since
everything is taken care of by a single person.<br>
<br>
If I had to explain briefly my opinion, I'd say that the
problem consists mainly in the lack of sponsors for this
project. When a language has a badly coordinated team (or
even no team at all), the resulting translation is
consequently bad. This happens because, even assuming all
individuals' work quality is high, everyone follows his own
lexicon and "translation style", so that the result becomes
different when the underlying translator changes.<br>
Of course giving such local directives is not the global
team's responsibility. Anyway, returning to the main topic,
many problems could be solved if contributors where more
(numerically) and more coordinated, so that the project
could count on a less discontinuous involvement.<br>
<br>
Although your meeting proposal is a praiseworty initiative,
frankly I prefer not to take on a commitment. Meanwhile,
let's hear if there are other suggestions.<br>
<br>
Hoping to get back active soon,<br>
arrivederci!<br>
<font color="#888888">
<br>
Filippo Mineo<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
FQN: Robert Antoni Buj Gelonch<br>
AKA: Robert Buj<br>
<br>
Advanced-level training cycle (ca: CFGS) in computer software
engineering (ca: DAI) - les Heures, technical academy (SPA)<br>
Computer Science Engineer - University of Lleida (UDL), Lleida
(SPA)<br>
Training course in Handel-C & DK design suite - Celoxica
Ltd., Abington (UK)<br>
Training course in Xilinx EDK & Microblaze - Autonomous
University of Madrid (UAM), Madrid (SPA)<br>
Postgraduate Master's degree in .NET Solutions - Open University
of Catalonia (UOC), Barcelona (SPA)<br>
Postgraduate Master's degree in FOSS (Free and open source
software) (upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia (UOC),
Barcelona (SPA)<br>
Postgraduate Master's degree in CS (Computer Science) & CEN
(Computer engineering) (upcoming) - Open University of Catalonia
(UOC), Barcelona (SPA)<br>
<br>
ca: M'agradaria millorar el món, però Déu no em dóna el codi
font!<br>
de: Ich würde gern die Welt verbessern, doch Gott gibt mir den
Quellcode nicht!<br>
en: I would like to improve the world, but God didn't give me
the source code!<br>
es: Me gustaría mejorar el mundo, pero Dios no me da el código
fuente!<br>
<br>
gpg fingerprint = DC2C C0E5 DD7C BB63 8775 AC67 5829 EBE1 9673
FCFD<br>
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