Re: Mount plugin in NB4.0

I see the comments that people are posting about the new projects 
system. I have been a user and promoter of Netbeans right from the early 
3.x days and have been instrumental in a significant number of people 
moving to Netbeans.

I have a few points to make in this discussion and I hope it will be 
taken in the right spirit:

1. NB4.0 is a first release of the new Projects feature. Like any other 
new feature, I would give it atleast 2 releases before it stabalizes. So 
my suggestion, stick to 3.6 until 4.1 comes out.

2. The projects feature is still evolving heavily. I realized that all 
the developers use cases have not really been taken care of yet. Eg. the 
projects have been explicitly divided into J2SE, J2EE and J2ME projects. 
There are, in most programmer cases, cross breed applications (like the 
ones mentioned in the thread) where one may need to runa single class 
when working in a web project. These have not yet been taken care of 
since the projects implementation is not complete.

3. Newer types of projects are going to be written soon ( like the one 
that integrates with Maven ). This is not possible with other IDE's 
(other than Eclipse) as easily. So, the feedback from other project 
system writers is going to help evolve the core API for this.

4. Remember that nb4.0 is still a pre-alpha product. You are not 
expected to use it in production environment yet. If you expect it to 
work flawlessly, you need to read the documentation again. Please wait 
for the release to come out in the next couple of weeks.

5. I like the support for Refactoring in Eclipse but I think that the 
support that has been put in NB for the 4.0 release is realistic when 
you consider that they are doing a re-write of the core pieces of the IDE.

- Navneet


----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Kellerer <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:45:38 PM
Subject: Mount plugin in NB4.0
> On 26.07.2004 02:40 IchBin wrote:
> 
>>
>>I second that... 
>>
>>I have given up on version 4.0. I loved 3.2 to 3.6 and maybe I'd enjoy 
>>4.0, but I have stop WASTING MY TIME with a very unfriendly product, now. 
>>Has the module programmers base changed? Where I can not EVEN convert up 
>>my 3.6 Projects. This should be the easiest task you should require a 
>>product follower to do! 
>>
>>I have since moved my projects to more friendly IDE's like Eclipse and 
>>JDeveloper. If the cone heads at Netbeans want to treat their customer's 
>>base (so to speak) that way, fine! They will be the losers in the long. I 
>>do have 27 years in the computer programming field and no rookie! 
>>
>>I am surprised that I would even THINK of Oracle over Netbeans because of 
>>my independent rebel nature but the proof is in the pudding.
>>
> 
> 
> After playing around with the current 4.0 Build it seems that I will take the
> same road. Sad but true (e.g.: it seems that for a web-based project I can't
> even simply run a class with a main method....)
> 
> I really hope the whole project UI will get a good deal of cleanup work until
> the relase. Otherwise I don't see any new users hopping on the NetBeans train,
> in contrary I see a lot of users leaving.
> 
> Thomas
> 
>