Re: Too many editor tabs?

Ivan Soleimanipour wrote:
> I think the boundry between "real/permanent" and "temp" is way
> too fuzzy such that creating distinct concepts will add to the confusion.

I don't agree. Please note that the debugger team was already 
considering providing special "debugger view" that would hold the files 
used only by the debugger.

> For example ... to place a breakpoint you have to open a file. Is this
> a permanent file or a temporary "debugger" file that gets closed when
> the debug run is over?

Depends on the debugger - but if you use normal open gesture for opening 
the file it would end up in the permanent area.

> As another example ... the standard _IDE_ model of debugging is such
> that there is no debugger or debugging session. You place
> bpts at any time and then "Start under debugger". The lifetime of
> the debugging "mode" corresponds to the lifetime of the program being run.
> 
> start IDE ------ run for debug ================ done debugging --- done w/ IDE
>             ^                                                   |
>             |                                                   |
>             +---------------------------------------------------+
>             
> Another model is that you decide to debug something (load a program, 
> or designate a debugge) and then repeatedly run it. Here you
> have a bona-fide debug session with which you can associate a cache
> and other settings. 
> 
> 
> start IDE ------ load for debug ==== run ====== done debugging --- done w/ IDE
>             ^                     ^         |                   |
>             |                     +---------+                   |
>             +---------------------------------------------------+
>             
> 
> Now consider ... if you're going to associate opened files with a debugger.
> In the standard IDE model (the first one) everytime your process stops
> what's going to happen? you're going to close all "debugger" files?
> Only to want to reopen them when you rerun for debugging again?
> 
> So Romans (MArtins?) IZ 35586 talks about "temporary" but temporary with
> respect to what?

The distinction is quite easy here: if the user opened the file (via 
open or clicking in the project view) it is opened. If the debugger 
opened the file (when e.g. stepping) it is temp.

I don't think that the debugger should close anything automatically - 
the user would be responsible for closing the temp area.

David