RE: --- Big Problems of the Netbeans IDE 6.x, the freezing cursor

Hi Juro

I had a similar problem in NetBeans 6.0 because of my virus-scanner
(McAfee). NetBeans comes along with a lot of jar-files. If your Scanner
searches them periodically for a possible virus or malware, NetBeans
freezes for many seconds.

I configured McAfee and it's "on-access-check" so that it does not check
jar-files or XML-files and got an improvement. (But the virus-scanner
still eats about half of my computing power! Without any malware-checks,
my computer is considerably faster.) 

You can run a test and disable *all* services of your virus-scanner. (To
switch the virus-scanner off, you must probably log in as
windows-administrator.) If you don't get an improvement, you have got
another problem.

By the way: I did not import the settings from NetBeans-5.5 during
installation of NetBeans 6.0 or 6.1.

Best regards
Heinz


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [nbui] --- Big Problems of the Netbeans IDE 6.x, the
freezing cursor


Ok, sorry, I forgot to say these hardware details...

So, my notebook is Fujitsu-Siemens E8200 (I guess),
- processor:  Intel Mobile cca 2 GHz
- RAM:   2GB
- I have there standart mobile disk with capacity 80 GB
- OS:   Windows XP updated with last patches
So, I have no problem with the PC power, I think...

- Importing:  probably yes, I import settings from 5.5 to 6.1 ... why
this is another topic, is it somehow broken or why?

- Watch or Inspect view windows:   The private preferences are just an
edging for the variables debug view, I think this variables view have to
be designed to the preferences of the most choosy developers, because if
these people will see the status of the debug tools in netbeans, that it
is very hard to use in everydays work, so they will start the massive
reccession of Netbeans users. So if you want to cooperate on these
improvemnts, so I am here, we can disscuss about that in mails, messages
(or in Skype, whatewer...).

But the worst netbeans (also 6.1) success blocking problem, of the 5-10
seconds freezes per aproximately every 3 minutes of netbeans 6.1 while
coding in java IDE editor, is there!    If nobody knows where this
problem
is, how to solve it (it's normal, it happens sometimes to developers, I
understand it), ...so then  I recomend to you (I mean NB developers)
allow to switching OFF / ON  all these wizzard features in the IDE
editor of netbeans via Options dialog. 
That looks like genial temporary solution till time it will be fixed.

Best regards,   Juro



-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 4:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [nbui] Big Problems of the Netbeans IDE today

--- [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I would like to disscuss the following problems with the Netbeans IDE
usage:
> 1.)  problem of the unbelievable terrible bad performance of the code
editor
> of Netbeans 6.1 on single core processor's computers 
> my hint to solve this:        to have a possibility to STOP some or
all of
> the Wizzards in the nb IDE editor.
> 
> 3.) also the Watch dialog and Local Variables dialog needs few 
> usability refactorings, to have such clear, simply and fast displaying

> the important values in Debug mode as it was e.g. in JBuilder X  or
current versions of
> Eclipse.   Otherwise the Netbeans will stay at the edge of main stream
of
> development tools
> 

Not sure if in 3 you mean performance with "fast displaying" or not. As
far as usability for watches goes that seems fine to me, so it is
probably a personal preference, so maybe more details about the issue is
needed. As it relates to the editor: What is the speed of your CPU on
this single core system? What is your GB of RAM? What is the disk and
disk speed? What OS are you using? Which code editor...which files
exactly for issue 1? Is 6.1 worse for you than 6.0 was? Did you import
settings from 6.0 into 6.1? That is another topic for debate.

I don't think the wizards are going to have any impact in the editor.
From what have you drawn this conclusion?

I would say the performance issue wouldn't be related to the UI as much
as general performance, but the others, as long as it isn't just a
performance issue, would. I didn't have a comment on your number 2.

Wade


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