Re: OScheduler

I'm still waiting for an answer of James.

Mathias

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew E.Porter" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-developers] OScheduler


> Has there been any more progress in either of these being adopted by OS?
> 
> 
> Cheers,
>    matthew
> 
> On Jan 9, 2004, at 5:59 PM, Mathias Bogaert wrote:
> 
> > James,
> >
> > The scheduler I created is *much* more simple (and thus *much* less
> > features) than Quartz. I didn't even consider clustering,  
> > 'prioritization of
> > job firing', and most of the other (exotic) Quartz features. I just  
> > needed a
> > fairly simple scheduler that could persist my jobs *using Hibernate*.  
> > To be
> > frank, I currently don't have much time left to work on issues like  
> > that, so
> > I would very much appreciate a collaborative effort.
> >
> > Here are some concrete questions for you:
> >
> > 1. OS components are lean and mean, so I'm not sure some of Quartz  
> > features
> > will 'fit' in, e.g. RMI, how do you see this?
> > 2. The package should be com.opensymphony.quartz, objections?
> > 3. What are your main motivations for moving to OS now and not before?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mathias
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James House" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-developers] OScheduler
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Matthias,
> >>
> >> James here (primary developer of Quartz).  I don't know if your
> >> interested or not, but I've had a full new design of Quartz (Quartz  
> >> 2.0)
> >> getting dusty for several months no, and was getting ready to actually
> >> dig in and build the thing (The work is about 20% done, and the  
> >> changes
> >> include: a significantly improved/changed API, usage of Hibernate for
> >> persistence, over-hauled clustering features, re-thinking of how
> >> guarantees and prioritization of job firings (and misfirings) occur,
> >> etc.).   In the past I had been invited to join Quartz under the OS
> >> umbrella, and had declined, but I was actually planning to write an
> >> e-mail to Patrick in the next week or so and ask if I'm still welcome,
> >> and see if anyone wants to help...  I'm also interested in leaving
> >> SourceForge and moving java.net.
> >>
> >> Anyway what are your thoughts on a collaborative effort?
> >>
> >> james
> >>
> >>
> >> Hani Suleiman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yep, that's what I was going to propose. xml, ejb, and memory.
> >>>
> >>> Mathias Bogaert wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'm not a big fan of multiple persistence mechanisms (look at the  
> >>>> many
> >>>> problems with it in OSUser/OSAccess). Hibernate supports all kinds  
> >>>> of
> >>>> databases, so no problem there. And offcourse, the API allows to
> >>>> plug, but
> >>>> except for perhaps an XML and EJB one, I don't think we should add
> > more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Mathias
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Hani Suleiman" <[email protected]>
> >>>> To: <[email protected]>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:17 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Opensymphony-developers] OScheduler
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Yes! Although the one thing that is glaringly missing from your
> >>>>> description is support for multiple persistence mechanisms, so any
> >>>>> objections to adding that in?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, big +1 from me for having such a component, as long as it
> >>>>> follows the same principles as all the others (few dependencies,
> >>>>> optional support for stuff, etc etc).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mathias Bogaert wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Guys,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Over the last month, I've written a scheduler (like Quartz), but  
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> much
> >>>>
> >>>>>> cleaner interfaces, based on java.util.Timer, lot of the same
> >>>>>> principals
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> as
> >>>>
> >>>>>> XWork (Job, JobSupport, JobInvocation, interceptors, etc), using  
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> cron
> >>>>
> >>>>>> parser from OSCache, with Hibernate as backing store for storing  
> >>>>>> jobs
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>>> job parameters (that are set on a job having setters). Startup
> >>>>>> through a
> >>>>>> context listener. The documentation is a work in progress, and  
> >>>>>> it's
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> very
> >>>>
> >>>>>> well tested (almost zero unit tests, I'm not into TDD yet).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've been thinking about releasing it as open source, and I'm
> >>>>>> wondering
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> if
> >>>>
> >>>>>> OpenSymphony would be interested. Offcourse any better name or  
> >>>>>> other
> >>>>>> suggestions are appreciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mathias Bogaert
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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