Chat transcript, 09:51 AM CDT

chatbot> New reply by Eduardo Cordeiro: Displaying field error messages (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63336)
chatbot> New thread by LS Thor: Webwork Validation Problem (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32702)
chatbot> New thread by LS Thor: Ajax Form Submission (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32704)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: Possible Bugs in Ajax's theme BindDiv (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63346)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: [Proposal] Some changes to Bind.js (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63347)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: Tabbed panel with one form (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63348)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: diference between local panel/ remote panel (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63349)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: Newbie question: getting rid of "customOnsubmit" ? (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63351)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: Ajax Form Submission (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63352)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: WebWork Wiki Chinese version 1.0a released (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63368)
chatbot> New reply by Wesslan: WebWork Wiki Chinese version 1.0a released (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63380)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: WebWork Wiki Chinese version 1.0a released (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63388)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: jsp Not able to Found action in xwork.xml (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63396)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: ww:action for ww:select doesent execute again when return='INPUT' (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63398)
chatbot> New reply by jackalista: How to determine a set of the last pages visited (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63399)
chatbot> New reply by ascat: ww:action for ww:select doesent execute again when return='INPUT' (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63423)
chatbot> New reply by LS Thor: Ajax Form Submission (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63424)
chatbot> New reply by Ian Roughley: Ajax Form Submission (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63428)
chatbot> New thread by ascat: how to submit a collection via ww:select ? (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32758)
chatbot> New reply by shubh: jsp Not able to Found action in xwork.xml (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63450)
chatbot> New thread by Patrick Lightbody: WebWork Consulting Availability (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32764)
chatbot> New reply by Mariusz Smykula: Ugly optiontransferselect (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63498)
chatbot> New thread by shubh: WARNING: Could not find webwork.properties (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32783)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: WARNING: Could not find webwork.properties (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63511)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: Ugly optiontransferselect (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63513)
chatbot> New reply by Wesslan: WARNING: Could not find webwork.properties (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63514)
chatbot> New reply by Karl Coleman: Namespaces (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63516)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63517)
chatbot> New reply by Karl Coleman: Namespaces (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63518)
chatbot> New reply by Rainer Hermanns: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63525)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63529)
Phil> g'day mate
wesslan> g'day
wesslan> aussie man ;)
wesslan> How are you doing?
Phil> As usual .. :)
wesslan> good to hear
wesslan> or? ;)
Phil> a little bit twisted and very busy :)
wesslan> I understood that from your post
Phil> yeah .. I just can't seem to leave this mess behind me 
wesslan> :(
wesslan> Butt soon, it's over. i can see that light at the end of your tunnel
Phil> Let's hope so
Phil> Well, we had a major press conference today
wesslan> and?
Phil> now, there's a good chance we can sell the company tomorrow
wesslan> wow
Phil> Yeah, we're the first in Belgium with a special system approved by the government
wesslan> cool
Phil> and now some major publishing companies are thinking about buying us out
wesslan> So that is what it takes, a press conference :)
Phil> haha :)
wesslan> That would be great
wesslan> no money in your pocket if "you" sell?
Phil> A bit ..
Phil> No shares, but since I completely wrote the system, I'm getting a special bonus
Phil> But I'm not in it for the money - the achievement alone is worth enough for me
wesslan> just like open source then :)
wesslan> Hope there will be enough to buy you a new car and maybe an ice cream
Phil> Pretty much, yes
Phil> haha
Phil> yeah, I can probably get me a small car - nothing too fancy though
Phil> But I'm already getting one at my next job, so I'll save it for something else
Phil> beer and women, probably
wesslan> lol
wesslan> Sounds like a good new job if you get a car
Phil> Well, Java devs are pretty scarce around here .. so we do get some added benefits when switching jobs
wesslan> Maybe a move to Belgium would benefit me then ;)
wesslan> Here we have tons of Java devs but not that many with the "right" experience
Phil> sec, call :)
Phil> Indeed, we have tons of Java devs as well - mostly guys who just got their degree and think their exposure to awt and swing programming warrants a 'I know Java' on their CV
Phil> Yet they don't have a clue what struts, tomcat or even polymorphy is .. *sigh*
Phil> welcome, aramati
aramati> hi phil how are you

Phil> Hi there
Phil> About that enum issue
aramati> what do I read up there?

chatbot> New reply by Eric Molitor: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63538)
aramati> women and ice cream

aramati> tztz

Phil> upgrading to 1.5 pretty much killed my tomcat instance :(
aramati> :-)

Phil> haha
Phil> sorry about that one - Peter's bad influence, I told you ;-)
aramati> hehe

aramati> well, i have another problem that should be the work around for my enum prob

Phil> hey Eric
emolitor> hello
aramati> I took the DebuggingInterceptor class from struts action 2 framework

Phil> Always happy to hear - what's the problem ?
aramati> and integrated it into webwork

aramati> but my interceptor is not invoked and i really do not know why

aramati> can we go through the workflow together?

Phil> Should be no problem - if it's instantiated correctly and listed in your interceptor stack, it should work
aramati> okay, let me tell you what i did:

Phil> I'll try - but I'm pretty much finishing up here (backing up, moving to another company) :)
Phil> Ok, go ahead
aramati> in webwork sources, I have the debuggininterceptor class added

emolitor> RE WW-1018: There is a simple fix documented in the JIRA has anyone applied it and tested it. The code seems logical and quite easy to apply.
Phil> I haven't tested it, Eric
emolitor> Assuming all of that is true I don't know why WW-1018 wouldn't be fixed.
emolitor> K
aramati> then i compiled webwork and put the jar to my maven repository

emolitor> I may play with it this evening hen
Phil> Tamara: sounds fine so far :)
aramati> in my portlet in configured my action, adding the interceptor by interceptor-ref name="debugging
"
Phil> Eric: thanks, that would really be nice
aramati> the interceptor is added to webwork-default.xml with the name and the class it refers to

aramati> but when running my application I see that the interceptor is not used

aramati> why?

Phil> Does the log make you any wiser ?
aramati> no unfortunately not

aramati> the intercept-method contains some system outs but they are not printed so i am sure the intercept method of interceptor is not invoked

wesslan> Phil, I'm back so now you can give cryptic answers again and then blame me. :)
Phil> Could you post the xml snippet you used for registering the interceptor ?
Phil> haha ;)
chatbot> New thread by Dag Welinder: Problem with quickstart and taglib (Displaytag) (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32790)
Phil> And are you sure the correct file is in your jar ?
Phil> Normally, WW should complain if the interceptor can't be instantiated
Phil> But I'm unaware of the possible consequences when using portlets (Nils should be able to fill you in on that one)
Phil> And if Tamara doesn't return soon, I will have typed this all for no reason and feel very stupid about it
wesslan> lol
emolitor> :)
wesslan> ctrl-c ctrl-v forum
emolitor> Nah, chatman is your friend in these cases
emolitor> er chatbot
Phil> Chatman ?
Phil> ^^
emolitor> We're that close that we have pet names for each other
Phil> I'm touched
emolitor> Jobs with cars... I need to update my negotiating skills
Phil> Yeah, but he only posts once a day - and only the last 20 lines of something get kept in the history
Phil> Jobs with cars ?
emolitor> [05/30/2006 8:00 AM] Phil: yeah, I can probably get me a small car - nothing too fancy though
[05/30/2006 8:01 AM] Phil: But I'm already getting one at my next job, so I'll save it for something else
Phil> haha
emolitor> Didn't realize that Chatbot only posted the last 20 lines
Phil> It's pretty standard for a java dev with a bit of experience here in Belgium
Phil> Eric: no, he posts the whole log, but when you enter the chat, you only get the last 20 lines of something
Phil> That's what I meant, but I have expressed myself rather poorly
wesslan> Maybe Phil just get an old 70's Ford Granada and no other payment
Phil> blame Peter
emolitor> Hmmm, good beer and jobs with cars. I just had to buy a new car. Perhaps I should have used that money to relocate.
Phil> .. *hurries to double check his contract*
wesslan> when in doubt, blame me
emolitor> :)
emolitor> I'm sure there are still a few Fiats running in Europe
Phil> haha - it's in fact an 20 year old mercedes - the jokes on you !
emolitor> HEHEHE
wesslan> Well, my sister-in-law has a REALLY old Fiat so - yes
emolitor> I had replaced so many parts on mine that it was almost a new car again when I sold it.
wesslan> 20 year old Merca 180D (diesel) - congrats to you, Phil!
Phil> My current car is a toyota starlet - 15 years old, only 4 shifting gears, 35 hp, no servo - max speed 70mph (80 when downhill or windy weather)
wesslan> 35hp - lol
emolitor> wow 35HP?!
Phil> yup
Phil> I think it's made of aluminium or something
Phil> It's hard steering when there's a lot of wind :)
emolitor> We just bought a Scion Xa (they are based on the Yaris which I think you are familiar with in Europe) and its 105hp and quite underpowered.
wesslan> My first (err, second) car was an Opel Ascona from -77. I replaced the whole engine 3 times in 4 years. Thank God my father was a car mecanic
Phil> Eric; Yeah, I know those
wesslan> me too
emolitor> I'm fat enough (yes, American) that I'm not sure if 35hp would pull me up a hill.
wesslan> lol
Phil> Peter: I would hardly know how to replace a bad tire :)
Phil> *adjusts mental image of Eric*
Phil> wb Tamara
emolitor> One of my robots has 4 10hp motors
aramati> phil?

aramati> i think i was dropped off

emolitor> Thats funny to me, I have a robot more powerful than you car.
Phil> (15:24:23) Phil: Could you post the xml snippet you used for registering the interceptor ?
(15:24:27) Phil: haha ;)
(15:24:48) aramati left the room.
(15:25:01) chatbot: New thread by Dag Welinder: Problem with quickstart and taglib (Displaytag) (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?threadID=32790)
(15:25:25) Phil: And are you sure the correct file is in your jar ?
(15:25:56) Phil: Normally, WW should complain if the interceptor can't be instantiated
(15:26:44) Phil: But I'm unaware of the possible consequences when using portlets (Nils should be able to fill you in on that one)
(15:27:12) Phil: And if Tamara doesn't return soon, I will have typed this all for no reason and feel very stupid about it
wesslan> 4*10 = 40 > 35
wesslan> Well pasted, Phil ;)
Phil> Eric: haha, yeah, but my car only costed me 125 euro's - can't beat that ;)
emolitor> wow, yes thats a good deal.
aramati> haha 

aramati> i am returned

emolitor> will probably run forever as well. (not a lot to go wrong in small engines)
aramati>             <interceptor name="debugging" class="com.opensymphony.webwork.interceptor.DebuggingInterceptor"/>

aramati> is the snippet i added as the last entry in the list of all the other interceptors

aramati>  interceptors tag

Phil> Eric: Indeed - I've been driving it for 30.000km without any troubles at all
wesslan> Well, that's 3,57 euros/hp
emolitor> wow
emolitor> Anybody ever see Velocity throw a Concurrent Modification Exception at Startup?
Phil> and is the correct file in your jar now ?
Phil> Eric: on Tomcat ?
emolitor> Yup. Tomcat 5.0.28 on JBoss 3.2.6
Phil> I've had quite of few of those when starting tomcat
Phil> but I'm not sure it was related to Velocity
emolitor> Seems to run ok, but it started out of the blue.
emolitor> Nod, I'm still not sure if its our code, Tomcat/JBoss, or Velocity
Phil> Yup, had similar experiences - but it was definitely tomcat
emolitor> (I like to blame JBoss's unified classloader but seems inappropriate in this case.)
Phil> (do it anyway, they can't hear you)
emolitor> Thx
Phil> Tamara; still here ?
aramati> phil,......

aramati> yes

Phil> Yeah ?
aramati> here

aramati> did you see my xml snippet for registering the interceptor?

Phil> Is the correct file in the correct jar in your classpath ?
Phil> (15:39:36) aramati:  interceptors tag
..
(15:40:19) Phil: and is the correct file in your jar now ?
aramati> the interceptor is in the file structure that is given in the xml-file

aramati> yes, it is there

Phil> Tamara: would it be possible to post your xwork.xml in the forum ?
Phil> Aaargh, guys, can anyone test if an error gets thrown when a specified interceptor isn't registered ?
Phil> I seem to have completely messed up my enviroment with my upgrade to 1.5
wesslan> Sure, but not now. My complete develop enviroment has be fu**ed up. That's why I'm hanging out here :)
aramati> i tested it already

aramati> but there is no error thrown

aramati> yes i can post my xwork in forum but i dont think there is an error

aramati> i think i can add an interceptor there:-)

Phil> Yeah, normally it should work without any problems - I'm adding interceptors all the time
aramati> yes, but i am very talented in doing things that should go easy but dont:-)

Phil> Haha, join the club then ;-)
wesslan> You should see me making breakfast then
aramati> let me think....#

Phil> Yeah, last time he tried that, 3 people died
aramati> oh really

Phil> totally unrelated to his breakfast though
Phil> but, you know, chaos theory and such ..
aramati> you know the darwin award?

aramati> i think that these three should be mentioned there

aramati> they deserve

wesslan> Or as Mr Murphy would have said: If you can mess up your breakfast - you will!
aramati> killed by egg flying through the air

aramati> hehe

Phil> Funky :)
Phil> Ok, just give me a moment, I think my setup is working again
Phil> Tamara: could you add a debug logger on com.opensymphony.xwork.config.providers.InterceptorBuilder ?
aramati> ha?

aramati> what do you want from me now?

Phil> set the logging level to debug for com.opensymphony.xwork.config.providers.
Phil> be it log4j or commons logging
aramati> where?

Phil> In your log properties
Phil> What logger are you using ?
aramati> log4j

aramati> this is my log4j.properties:

Phil> xml or properties ?
aramati> log4j.rootLogger=INFO, stdout, file

log4j.appender.stdout=org.apache.log4j.ConsoleAppender
log4j.appender.stdout.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
log4j.appender.stdout.layout.ConversionPattern=%-4r [%t] %-5p %c %x - %m%n

log4j.appender.file=org.apache.log4j.RollingFileAppender
log4j.appender.file.File=./logs/log4j.log
log4j.appender.file.MaxFileSize=100KB
log4j.appender.file.MaxBackupIndex=0
log4j.appender.file.layout=org.apache.log4j.PatternLayout
log4j.appender.file.layout.ConversionPattern=%p %t %c - %m%n

aramati> xml also exists but both do not work and i do not know why

aramati> it is a fucking system here

aramati> i feel like a bomb that is shortly before exploding

Phil> Oh dear
Phil> better hurry up then
Phil> lemme check on the properties config then (I use the xml version)
aramati> you want to know  something?

Phil> Sure
aramati> i am still waiting for my lunch#

aramati> we ordered it and it did not arrive yet since four hours

wesslan> you want to know something? I had lunch 5 hours ago...
wesslan> ;)
Phil> I never have time for lunch (well, not since the last 2 years), you spoiled kids ! :)
aramati> so what happens if a woman is hungry, shortly before period(i know you are not really interested in that), having back pain because me moved to a new apartment, and NOTHING is working here

wesslan> "and We grew up in a shoe box in the middle of the high way"
aramati> i think i will kill someone

aramati> phil, i feel with you you poor guy

emolitor> aramati: Start with my neighbor I will buy you a ticket to the US
emolitor> IF you leave soon you will make it in time for Lunch Here.
aramati> well, i am in the mood to ACTUALLY do that

aramati> so be cautious with these offers

emolitor> :)
plightbo> wow, quite a crowd today
aramati> hehe

aramati> i am half italian half iranian be cautios

aramati> yes, patrick 

emolitor> I have another persian sitting next to me
aramati> entry question is: did you have lunch

Phil> Tamara: Could you add log4j.logger.com.opensymhony.xwork.config.providers=DEBUG ?
emolitor> He is from Tehran
aramati> most of them are

aramati> because the rest is rocks and deserts hehe

emolitor> :)
Phil> Hey Patrick$
wesslan> Tamara, as long as you stay out of Sweden, you could skip lunch ;)
plightbo> aramati? is this ara abrahamian?
plightbo> hey phil
wesslan> You actually heard of Ara Abrahamian???
aramati> @Phil i added it to log4j properties ok?

Phil> yup
aramati> @patrick no, it is me the woman who is kindly offering you translation:-)

aramati> o who is ara abrahamian

plightbo> oh, ok :)
aramati> aramati is Tamara backwards and an i in the end because it sounds better

plightbo> haha, ok
wesslan> He is a swedish(...) wrestler
aramati> but if you solve my problems, i will be for you whatever you want:-D

plightbo> ara abrahamian is my co-author in the book Java Open Source Programming
aramati> even a swedish wrester, mmmmmmmmmauahahha

aramati> aha

wesslan> yeah, and that :)
aramati> not a wrestler?

emolitor> hmmm, (pulls out my copy) definitely not a wrestler
wesslan> http://www.ara.se/
wesslan> just look at the pics and send a cheerful mail to your friend, Patrick ;)
plightbo> ha
wesslan> if you like some translation, just ask :)
aramati> i like translation

aramati> dear patrick, my darling, let me tell you someting

aramati> I saw that you wrote debugging interceptor

aramati> thats true right?

plightbo> you're looking in the SAF 2 codebase, right?
aramati> dont ask me that questions

plightbo> that was written by Don Brown initially, but I helped
aramati> it is not the right day to ask that

aramati> just yes or no

chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: Possible Bugs in Ajax's theme BindDiv (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63555)
chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: [Proposal] Some changes to Bind.js (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63556)
aramati> hm

aramati> can you give me his address

emolitor> aramati: he goes by mrdon and usually is in the forum by now
emolitor> Maybe still a bit early though
Phil> He'll probably drop by any second now :)
chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: Ugly optiontransferselect (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63560)
aramati> no, i want his address the place where he lives

Phil> ^^
wesslan> I'm still giggling about that Ara Abrahamian-story
Phil> Woman on the edge ..
aramati> i will go around there and after that refer to emolitors wishes

emolitor> hehe
aramati> patrick

emolitor> sadly it works fine for me
aramati> my interceptor does not work

aramati>  a lot of other things that should

aramati> webwork is really making me mad

plightbo> heh
Phil> Tamara: any logging statements that make you any wiser ?
emolitor> I haven't seen this asked yet but what version of WW are you using?
aramati> so your book is very good

aramati> but it is so sad that it does not work like that

plightbo> have you installed the config browser and looked at your configuration? perhaps it isn't what you expect it to be?
aramati> so tell me something that makes me happy 

emolitor> Will the config browser work is you are using the property file config?
emolitor> ugh ... is=if
aramati> what you mean by config browser

emolitor> http://wiki.opensymphony.com/display/WW/Config+Browser
aramati> i am restarting tomcat

Phil> <include file="config-browser.xml"/> in your xwork.xml, under your <include file="webwork-default.xml"/>, should work
emolitor> just realized that it uses the config classes so should work quite well with the property config
chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63561)
emolitor> aramati: Also make sure you have the velocity dependencies installed
aramati> i have 

aramati> i am waiting for restart

Phil> .. on windows, by any chance ? :)
chatbot> New reply by Eric Molitor: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63563)
emolitor> Hmmm, we need to move all the JIRA's to the WW jira for 2.2.3.
emolitor> I can do it but I may need an admin to cleanup after me if I make a mistake.
Phil> I was just thinking the same thing
chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63564)
Phil> about the move - not the cleanup :)
emolitor> hehe
Phil> sec, gotta chance my parking card for a moment
plightbo> "all the ijras"?
plightbo> what do you mean?
plightbo> we should only target those we actually plan to fix for 2.2.3
emolitor> right
emolitor> But they are all in SAF's jira right now.
plightbo> seriously? when did that happen
emolitor> dunno, but if you try to open then you get a JIRA not found
plightbo> bummer
emolitor> Maybe just being silly and I need to search for them or something
emolitor> But I've been working off of SAF's jira and then using the SVN logs to create patches
plightbo> no
emolitor> (I get nothing form WW jira)
plightbo> we need to work off the opensymphony JIRA
plightbo> i opened it back up for that purpose
emolitor> right, not making any changes
plightbo> ditto for the wiki
emolitor> Just looking at changes :)
aramati> freemarker is there but no velocity is there

emolitor> Usually it goes like this....
emolitor> Toby fixes something (he is not human I tell you!) I look at the closed SAF jira and if I get luck the changes are listed. Then open up SAF2 source and start looking at his commits.
Phil> Isn't the config browser entirely in freemarker nowadays ?
Phil> Eric: He sure is - I think he did 95% of the jira issues for saf
emolitor> Should we just create new issues?
plightbo> yes, the config browser requires FM
aramati> patrick, does it also require velocity?

Phil> I don't think so Tamara
emolitor> Been waiting to here from Rainer or you (patrick) to figure out what to do in the WW JIRA.
aramati> well, but it is not reachable with localhost:8080/starter/config-browser/index.action

Phil> Any stacktraces ?
emolitor> If rainer is going to start working through the patches this week then we need the jira's soon.
plightbo> aramati: i don't think it does
plightbo> eric: all the jiras should be in the ww jira
plightbo> i added a 2.2.3 version, so people can start moving/copying them over
plightbo> i gotta run, brb
emolitor> K, I will poke around...
chatbot> New reply by tm_jee: WebWork Wiki Chinese version 1.0a released (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63569)
emolitor> Ahhh, all of them prior to WW-1284 are there. I'm just silly
emolitor> Well that will give me something to do tonight
Phil> I'm not getting a 2.2.3 version in the jira ?
emolitor> ITs in the unreleased versions
emolitor> right above 2.3 :)
aramati> no, there are no stacktrcaces

aramati> i really do not know why nothing works here

Phil> Eric: not seeing anything .. maybe I'll have to log out
aramati> no phil stay

aramati> i need you

aramati> :-(

Phil> Tamara: to restate Eric's question: what version are you using ?
aramati> what question

emolitor> "What version of WW are you using?"
aramati> i think 2.3

emolitor> hmmm, probably not
Phil> I wasn't logging out of the chat - I was talking about the Jira
Phil> Actually, she did a new build from cvs
aramati> ah:-)

aramati> uh

aramati> puh

Phil> so 2.3 is correct :)
emolitor> hehe :)
aramati> yup

aramati> good, that at least you know what i did:-)

aramati> ehe

emolitor> Have you thought of trying 2.2.2?
aramati> by the way do you know any good portal server?

emolitor> No, I dont think any exist
emolitor> Weblogics seems good but is very pricey
Phil> You could try that, and then register the interceptor in your xwork.xml
Phil> lol
Phil> You should ask Nils - he's the portal expert
emolitor> pluto/Jetspeed 2 is ok but is quite buggy and not very fast
emolitor> Nod
aramati> please no more buggy things 

Phil> I think he recommended pluto and something 'rayportal' ? I forgot the name ..
aramati>  am bugged up

emolitor> liferay
aramati> liferay

emolitor> its pretty ood
aramati> yes

aramati> we use that

emolitor> ergood
aramati> ok

aramati> emolitor:

Phil> that was it :)
aramati> tomorrow i will do the following:

aramati> i will build up liferay newly

aramati> i will install webwork

aramati> 2.2.2

emolitor> K
aramati> and i will integrate the debugging interceptor again

emolitor> Its quite nice
wesslan> an tomorrow you'll have lunch!
emolitor> (WebWork)
aramati> do you think that will help and be good start to have a clean base to discuss with you

aramati> lunch and two dead people on my list

Phil> Yeah, don't mess with the build unless you have to
aramati> but no visit for breakfast

emolitor> I think so, at least you will be running on a version that we all know works.
aramati> ok

aramati> ok

aramati> then i thank all you guys for your help

Phil> 2.3 works as well - at least for what she's trying to do
aramati> and we will talk tomorrow - i am sure

Phil> but just to make sure, go for 2.2.2
aramati> no matter, phil, i will use what all of you use

aramati> just to be sure

Phil> I use lots of alcohol
Phil> Can't really recommend it
aramati> yeah but it is too expensive

aramati> and i cannot go to work the next day

Phil> Visit Belgium some day ! :)
aramati> pedophile country, you mean?

Phil> Duvel is pretty cheap, and you don't need many of 'em ;-)
aramati> oh no not so many stones

aramati> no please

aramati> just a joke

Phil> No problem, just come back tomorrow
aramati> patrick: don t feel offended by me i really like your book i am just a desperate woman having a lot of web work problems:-(

aramati> ;-/

aramati> k?

Phil> Not sure if I'll be here (important meetings - as always), but someone will help you
aramati> Phil: the sad thing is: I WILL

aramati> HAVE TO

Phil> and try to post things on the forum
aramati> @phil: tell them you cannot meet

Phil> Toby has a keen eye for troubles
aramati> you have more important things to do:-)

Phil> haha
Phil> Normally, I'd totally agree
aramati> wesslan was the one with the three dead people, hah?

Phil> but we're selling the company, so I need to attend ;-)
Phil> yup
wesslan> wel...
aramati> okay, i permit:-)

aramati> k, then,

Phil> thanks ;-)
aramati> chocolate for breakfast in Belgium, lunch with wesslan (survival chance: 50%) and in the evening visiting patrick in orlando

aramati> well, good agenda

wesslan> tough day
aramati> and if someone needs some translation where i could earn some money with let me know:-)

Phil> You could have been off worse
Phil> :)
aramati> yes, imagine i would be guilty for the paradise and apple-problem

aramati> glad that it was Eve:-)

aramati> hehe

Phil> :D
Phil> Well, we all tried very hard to resist making jokes about women and computers .. ;-)
aramati> bye guys

Phil> Cheers :)
aramati> you do not need to resist

aramati> you know, when driving, i always grudge the women

aramati> cause most of them cant drive and shouldnt

aramati> but of course i am not that kind of woman hehe

Phil> *mental picture*
aramati> exceptions commit the rules you know;-)

aramati> buy guys

aramati> äh bye

aramati> ups

Phil> And you know you should always catch exceptions, right ? ^^
aramati> sigmund freuds heritage

Phil> ugh, that was a bad joke
aramati> yep

aramati> bye then

Phil> sorry about that :)
Phil> cheers
Phil> that was .. weird .. :)
emolitor> heheheh
emolitor> yup, wouldn't touch that part of the conversation with a 10 ft pole
emolitor> or 2 meter
wesslan> thanks for the recalc :)
emolitor> :)
Phil> :)
emolitor> We must be careful there days, less we crash something else into Mars....
wesslan> I'm still confused after that conversation
emolitor> these
Phil> Ugh, still nog seeing a 2.2.3 version in the Jira - I'm going loco
emolitor> hmmm
plightbo> phil: lemme look
plightbo> i'm almost positive i set that up
emolitor> You are looking at "Affects Version" on http://jira.opensymphony.com
emolitor> I see it
plightbo> yeah, it's there
emolitor> Phil: Are you accidently on the SAF jira instance?
Phil> Nope, jira.opensymhony.com
emolitor> hmmm neat
Phil> wait, perhaps I've got a funky proxy
emolitor> nod
emolitor> I had to dump cache to see it
Phil> Ok, I guess I'm not looking at the right page: http://jira.opensymphony.com/browse/WW - shouldn't there be a 2.2.3 under Versions ?
emolitor> Ahhh well no
emolitor> ooops, I mean yes
emolitor> I bet Patrick needs to dump JIRA's issue caching
wesslan> I can't see a 2.2.3 on http://jira.opensymphony.com/browse/WW either
emolitor> Ahhhh
plightbo> that's because no issues are linked to 2.2.3 yet :)
emolitor> (with open issues due to be fixed per version)
emolitor> nod
emolitor> there is a handy little note on that page.
emolitor> Looking at atlassians code they cache almost that whole page and only update when an issues is created or removed....
Phil> Yeah, but I would have thought they would list it with 0 issues as well
emolitor> apparently not :)
wesslan> you should never count on things :)
Phil> Ok, someone move something to 2.2.3 then :)
emolitor> I will create an issue "Cannot see 2.2.3 on the summary page in JIRA"
emolitor> (Just kidding)
wesslan> we can move Tamara's code there
Phil> :D
Phil> Evil, evil people 
emolitor> hehe
wesslan> that's my call
wesslan> the evil weasel (Wesslan is swedish for weasel)
Phil> Well, I'll start packing my stuff
emolitor> Congratulations Phil
emolitor> ttfn
Phil> They told me I can take my work computer with me
wesslan> "and we never want to see you again"
Phil> (need to do a couple more things in the following months)
Phil> haha
Phil> Probably
wesslan> you have to cut yourself loose man
wesslan> leave the computer :)
chatbot> New reply by Philip Luppens: WebWork Wiki Chinese version 1.0a released (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63580)
Phil> Impossible
Phil> It's connected to my brain
Phil> And it tickles everytime I open the cd player
wesslan> lol
wesslan> image how a blue screen of death would fell like...
wesslan> imagine
wesslan> fell = fell for the fu**ing second time today
Phil> ^^
Phil> Ok, off for more coffee
wesslan> Now, it's tme to go home. Have a nice "take your computer home"-evening
Phil> Cheers Peter
wesslan> cheers
Phil> I'm off as well .. cheers Patrick
plightbo> see ya
emolitor> wow, its empty now
chatbot> New reply by Eric Molitor: Proposal WebWork 2.2.2.1 (http://forums.opensymphony.com/thread.jspa?messageID=63591)

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