Re: Re: Re: Development Framework

whats wrong with using XMLSocket?


On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:13:55 +0530, Arif Amirani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks a lot for all your inputs.
> Seems like polling may be the way to go but if I have like 1k clients
> polling unneccessarily to a potentially static data server which may have a
> sudden data change once in a while, it does not sound seriously lucrative.
> 
> I was thinking of designing/implementing an intelligent polling system which
> attaches a probability to the next poll. Depending on this probability the
> client will automatically deduce when to poll next, but I guess such a
> solution is not very generic and scalable.
> 
> I just want to finally have a system that is as efficent as event based
> models and can be implemented using polling.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Arif Amirani.
> 
> "Sebastien Blanc" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> 
> 
> however note that depending on your deployment, this may potentially not
> bypass firewalls. using polling (or HTTP tunneling) ensures that you are
> going over HTTP and so that no such restriction applies. this may or not
> matter in your case.
> seb.
> Jason Calabrese wrote:
> You might want to look into using one of the socket servers.  I haven't used
> any of them, but I think that can call the client so you don't have to do
> poll the server.
> On Monday 01 November 2004 1:19 am, Arif Amirani wrote:
> > "is there no way to send a message from server to client?"
> >
> > Can somebody please comment on this?
> > I am facing imminent polling code to be written if this goes unanswered :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Arif Amirani
> >
> > "Ian Pojman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > EJBs are good for client/server stuff, for one.... its not the
> > programming APIs which you need it for as much as leveraging the
> > functionality of an EJB container, that is, writing simple EJB POJOs
> > and having the magic 'be worked' underneath you. no rmi programming,
> > pooling, etc.
> >
> > I guess using OpenAMF is asking for better performance than SOAP...
> > that's one of the reasons why I'll most likely stick with OpenAMF...
> >
> > is there no way to send a message from server to client?
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:49:02 +0100, François Le Lay <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > Yeah actually, the idea is to come up with a richer set of examples than
> > > the ones provided in openAMF. As you mentioned it, I also tend to think
> > > that one can achieve better performance by avoiding the use of
> > > persistance frameworks or EJBs whenever they don't fit the purpose.
> > > Actually has anyone here used EJBs rather than JavaBeans/POJOs and for
> > > what specific task?
> > >
> > > Ian Pojman wrote:
> > > >I use hibernate and various j2ee stuff but I do not advocate the use
> > > >of JBoss or JDO or commons stuff. one can do a lot better without a
> > > >bunch of bloaty frameworks...
> > > >
> > > >really nothing much of j2ee is germane because you can do whatever you
> > > >want in your services.
> > > >
> > > >I would rather see someone show some patterns in using openamf,
> > > >examples of more complex AMF conversations.
> > > >
> > > >/ian
> > > >
> > > >On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:15:33 +0100, François Le Lay <[email protected]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > >>Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >>I would like to write a "getting started" doc dealing with the joint
> > > >> use of OpenAMF+AS2+JBoss+Eclipse+(JDBC, Commons.DbUtils, JDO,
> > > >> Hibernate). So right now I need to know if some of you are using this
> > > >> combiantion of tools as their base framework? Could you describe the
> > > >> way you work in a few simple steps? I know it sounds like I should be
> > > >> more specific about it, but we can get into details later.
> > > >>
> > > >>Cheers,
> > > >>François
> > >
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