Re: [DISCUSS] Future of OpenJPA in TomEE 11 / EE 11

"Jonathan S. Fisher" <[email protected]> Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:14:02 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.openejb.devel
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My vote would actually be EclipseLink, not Hibernate :) I've used both and
greatly prefer it at scale, especially in how it performs with its cache.
However, as long as there continues to be a TomEE distribution with
Eclipselink in it, tis a mute point what the default is IMHO.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 8:36 AM Evaldo Junior <[email protected]>
wrote:

> + 1 vote to use Hibernate insted of Open Jpa.
> I have never used OpenJpa.
> I have been using Hibernate since 2.006.
>
>
> Evaldo Junior
>
> Em sex, 26 de set de 2025 10:18, Thomas Andraschko <
> [email protected]> escreveu:
>
> > +1 for hibernate + hibernate for Jakarta data
> >
> > Daniel Dias Dos Santos <[email protected]> schrieb am
> Fr.,
> > 26. Sept. 2025, 14:34:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I vote +1 to make Hibernate the default in TomEE.
> > >
> > > Honestly, I have never used OpenJPA.
> > >
> > > And most developers use Hibernate.
> > >
> > > Since it is already under the Apache license, I believe it would be a
> > huge
> > > gain for the project, as it has a strong community around it and is
> > already
> > > implementing Jakarta Data.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2025, 05:29 Richard Zowalla <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I’d like to start a discussion about the future of OpenJPA in TomEE,
> > > > specifically whether it’s time to consider replacing it with
> Hibernate.
> > > >
> > > > Hibernate 7 is now ASLv2 licensed, fully implements the latest spec
> > > > features, and already supports Jakarta Data for EE 11. This puts it
> in
> > a
> > > > strong position to meet our needs moving forward, especially as we
> look
> > > > toward TomEE 11.
> > > >
> > > > By contrast, OpenJPA has struggled to keep up, and realistically we
> > don’t
> > > > appear to have enough development resources to build and maintain an
> > > > ASF-only implementation of Jakarta Data. In fact, we made a similar
> > > > decision when we gave up the ASF-only spec implementations some time
> > ago.
> > > >
> > > > Of course, anyone who prefers to stay with OpenJPA can still swap it
> > in,
> > > > but from my perspective, I believe we should seriously consider
> whether
> > > > Hibernate should become the default going forward.
> > > >
> > > > I’d like to hear your thoughts, both on the practical implications
> for
> > > > TomEE and the overall direction we should take.
> > > >
> > > > Gruß
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > >
> >
>


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