Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re: Will Tomee be discontinued ?)

Hi Bart,

I have to admit that documentation is not exactly my core competence. ;-)

But I'll try to at least write down the pitfalls, workarounds and 
hopefully solutions on my way. I'm still hoping I will not be the only 
one joining the project and trying to contribute, so a kind of shared 
Wiki maybe good for this.

cu
Jens

Am 25.03.2024 um 11:39 schrieb Bart van Leeuwen:
> Hi Jens,
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> I would be extremely grateful if you could document your experience and
> lessons learned somewhere
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> Met Vriendelijke Groet / With Kind Regards
> Bart van Leeuwen
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> From:   "Jens Zurawski" <[email protected]>
> To:     [email protected]
> Date:   25-03-2024 10:41
> Subject:        Re: Question: Can I donate to an Apache project? (was Re:
> Will Tomee be discontinued ?)
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> Hi Richard,
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> oh, that sounds like a lot of "fun" ;-)
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> Thank you, that you shed some light. So this definitely can't be done by
> the way and one has to focus a significant amount of time without
> interruption in order to make some positive progress. Not impossible it
> just makes it a bit harder to find suitable time slices especially as a
> newbie because I have no clue how high the hill is I have to climb.
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> But just lamenting around will not help in any way, so I think I will
> try to dive into this project and see if I can be of any help. If not I
> will have wasted some time at most. It's worth the try.
>
> I'll continue my "questionary" on this in the dev@ list then. But it'll
> take some two or three weeks until this, because I have some other nasty
> deadlines in sight the next weeks.
>
> cu
> Jens
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> Am 22.03.2024 um 20:44 schrieb Richard Zowalla:
>> Hi,
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>> you actually need to choose the right branch on that repository. Some
>> of these tests require specific settings to be present (only available
>> on some branches) and assume certain locale / enviroment conditions
>> (most of them aren't documented in the README). I had a lot of pain
>> running TCK tests for 8.x and 9.1.x on my de_DE Ubuntu machine ;-) (and
>> yes, I also had the bsdtar issue). Another thing is, that a run polutes
>> your TCK installation, so I ended up putting it under a local git and
>> clean it after each run ;-)
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>> Getting the old TCK to run, is a bit of a pain. Even if you are doing
>> everything right, it sometimes also depends on the JDK version you have
>> on your machine (for 9.1.1, I had some pain because of a bug in the JDK
>> HTTP client resulting in TCK tests to fail due to a change in CXF).
>>
>> Long story short: Given that most TCK/specs migrated towards
>> arquillian/junit/testng, setting up and running the TCK for TomEE 10,
>> is now a totally different thing than before. Some of the quirks and
>> properties / configs (and hacks) can be copied over or need to be
>> added. A good example for that procedere is [1], in which Benedict and
>> myself did a trial and error approach to get the JAX-RS E10 TCK set up.
>>
>> We would need to do that for the other relevant spec TCKs inside of
>> TomEE too, but this is "Neuland" (new area) for everyone involved. Some
>> of these modern TCKs are straightforward (eg. BatchEE TCK), but others
>> require a more sophisticated setup. It involves looking into the TCK
>> guide, looking into other projects (how they do it), copying / checking
>> quirks required for TomEE inside the old TCK (system properties, etc.)
>> and trying to get it setup and run it. It is really a try and error
>> process. The signature tests are more or less "quick" wins, but
>> sometimes also require some hackery :/
>>
>> I guess, that the place to ask questions is the dev@ list. If it
>> requires a more sync way of communicating, Slack might also be an
>> opton. A synchronous meeting might work too, but is limited to
>> timezone, etc.
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>>
>> Gruß
>> Richard
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>> [1] https://github.com/apache/tomee/pull/1063
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