Re: Fw: OpenJms and Security

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Alateras" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>; "Knut at work" <[email protected]>
Cc: "sourceforge-openjms-dev" <openjms-developer-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: [openjms-developer] Fw: OpenJms and Security


>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim Anderson [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 8:32 PM
> > To: Knut at work; [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [openjms-developer] Fw: OpenJms and Security
> >
> >
> > I've no problem with splitting APIs so long
> > as we can deprecate the existing functionality and
> > remove it in a future release.
> >
> > One thing I've been wanting to do is have
> > AdminConnectionFactory return AdminConnection instances
> > (never like the *Ifc naming convention ;), and
> > update the method signatures to use JDK 1.2 collections.
> > Splitting the API on responsibilities would be good as well.

+1 for this proposal, lets do it this way.

> >
> > +1 to rewrite of admin gui. More along the lines of
> > iBus//MessageServers GUI, than Sonic's which from memory was
> > awful.

You prob. refer to version 4 or lower of SonicMQ.
Have a look at the new SonicMQ version 5.0 - this is jmx-based and the
managment console is totaly rewritten.

>
> +1 to rewrite I also think it is worth looking into MQSeries Explorer.
>

Im not familiar with iBus and have not used MQSeries for a couple of
ears  -  Ill take a look.

> >
> > +0 to JMX support. Must confess I've never really looked into
> > it. I've been meaning to, along with the possibilities of making
> > the server Avalon based (http://avalon.apache.org), or perhaps
> > using one of the lighter weight containers such as picocontainer
> > (http://www.picocontainer.org).
>
> +1 To JMX support we could embed mx4j similar to the Avalon Phoenix
> container. We could then write a JMX-based management application
> (alternatively we could use third-party jmx enabled management
> applications). We could also look at OpenNMS, which I believe is a
> JMX-enabled management application
>
> There is a series of articles at IBM AlphaWorks on JMX. If anyone is
> interested you should be able to get to all 3 articles from here
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-jmx3/
>
>
> It would also be nice to ditch our BasicService stuff and go do either one
> of the Avalon containers. The lightweight containers you mentioned are
still
> under heavt development. Has anyone looked into HiveMind
> http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/hivemind/
>
>
> >
> > Top of my list at the moment is to get 0.7.6 ready.
> > This includes:
> > . fixing bugs reported by the CTS.
> > . migrating all of the docs to xdoc format, so the website
> >   can be completely generated by maven.
> >   I want to get rid of the PDF users guide which is too hard to
> >   maintain.
> > . finish the maven based build
> > . generating performance stats to get a feel for where the
> >   bottlenecks are. I hope to publish some data in the next
> >   week.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > PS: probably should keep posts on the developer list...
>
> +1
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Knut at work [mailto:knut.lerpold-Y0ltV1YbkABUXjr8k6HNnAC/[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 23 July 2003 9:45 PM
> > > To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [openjms-developer] Fw: OpenJms and Security
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll have a look at the Admin API and GUI.
> > > Wouldnt it be better to split the AdminItf into AdminItf
> > > (create/delete/udate) and MonitorItf for monitoring the system (count,
> > > destinationlist, userlist, etc.)???
> > >
> > > For now Ill auth. the admin against the users in db.
> > > For later we should have spesial. Admin-users.
> > >
> > > Actually what I have in mind for later is this:
> > > Users  <----many-to-many---> Groups
> > > Groups will contain two default groups: Administrators and PUBLIC
> > > Users will ALWAYS contain at least on user that is a member of
> > > Administrators and all users will by default become a member of
PUBLIC.
> > > By doing this it will be easy to impl. Acls
> > > (This pretty much like the way this is impl. in SonicMQ)
> > >
> > > I would also like to rewrite the Admin GUI when I find the
> > time, maybe in
> > > september.
> > > Maybe It should be ported to JMX??
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for all this thoughts/questions, but when you start to
> > > think..........
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunatly we a have a delivery in apx. 3-4 weeks time and we are of
> > > course at least one month after sched. so Ill have to put a lot
> > > of effort in
> > > to that :-((
> > >
> > > K
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim Anderson" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <openjms-developer-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 5:49 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [openjms-developer] Fw: OpenJms and Security
> > >
> > >
> > > > A few more tasks:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Still to do, in no particular order:
> > > >
> > > > > 1. update remaining create_*.sql scripts to include the users
table.
> > > > > 2. add sql scripts to create the users tables, for existing
> > databases
> > > > > 3. update configuration reference xdoc to include
> > > <SecurityConfiguration/>
> > > > and <Users/>
> > > > > 4. add security section to the administrators guide xdocs
> > > > > 5. add user management to the admin GUI
> > > > > 6. update sample configs to include <SecurityConfiguration/> and
> > > <Users/>
> > > > > 7.  more testing. I'll be running it against the JMS CTS
> > over the next
> > > few
> > > > days.
> > > > > 8. Add encryption of password, to avoid sending it cleartext
> > > [optional]
> > > >
> > > > 9. Add authentication to the embedded JNDI provider
> > > > 10. Add authentication the administration API
> > > >
> > > > > If you (or anyone else for that matter) wants to do any of
> > the above,
> > > > please let me know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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