Re: SimpleORM offshoot

Hello Brian,

Glad to hear that you have found SimpleOrm interesting.

>Employee e = (Employee)Employee.meta.find(bla);

The cast issue has been fixed by Franck for Java 1.5.  (Generics are 
not my favorite language feature, but they are better than all the 
noisy casts.)

The find(keys) issue has also been addressed using 1.5 keys... parameters.

More complex queries are being addressed.

I suspect that the XML plus code generators you have taken is 
substantially different from what SimpleOrm does.  Avoiding XML was a 
bit of a goal.

Best of luck with GenOrmOus.

Regards,

Anthony


At 01:16 AM 23/07/2008, Brian Hawkins wrote:

>I read about SimpleORM a few years ago in a java magazine and I 
>liked what I saw.  I've taken a look at Hibernate and I was very afraid :)
>
>I've always been of the opinion that tools do not have to be 
>themselves complicated just because they may do a complicated task.
>
>Anyway I've used SimpleORM in a large project and was very pleased 
>with the outcome.  There are however a couple of issues that have bugged me.
>The first is casting:
>Employee e = (Employee)Employee.meta.find(bla);
>
>This seems very clunky to me.
>
>The other issue is that SimpleOrm does not have a mechanism for 
>handling complex queries.  In one case I have a query that joins 
>data across 10+ tables.
>
>So I created a new project called GenORMous where I took all of the 
>coolness from SimpleORM and made it (IMHO) better.  At this point I 
>have to mention how cool it is putting the connection on the thread 
>local data, that works so well with inversion of control frameworks 
>such as Struts2 (very cool feature).
>
>Back to GenORMous, it is basically SimpleORM but with generated code 
>so in the above scenario I can to this:
>Employee e = Employee.factory.find(bla);
>
>Because the static factory object is generated, it knows what kind 
>of class it creates.  Also I can generate key specific find and 
>create methods for tables with multiple key fields such as:
>Employee e = Employee.factory.find(intkey, stringkey);
>
>It removes all ambiguity and improves compile time error checking.
>
>As for complex queries GenORMous generates readonly dataset objects 
>for accessing the query results.
>
>It's all very cool and I'm interested in what you guys think.
>
>(<http://code.google.com/p/genormous/>http://code.google.com/p/genormous/)
>
>thanks
>Brian
>


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