Fwd: Re: Removing Serializability

>Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:18:52 +1000
>To: [email protected]
>From: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [SimpleORM] Removing Serializability
>
>Hello Damien,
>
>I would doubt that Tomcat tries to serialize session rather than just leaving it in memory, at least in the normal case.  But it should work if it did.
>
>Sorry, but I do not understand the following at all:-
>
>>Now, after removing seriability I had other error. I think we should put 
>>all the Sorm meta transient in our SRecordInstance
>>as they are not serializable yet. We've got a lot a SRecordInstance ! 
>>... I may try on the one that raise error in console first.
>
>The only link from an SRecordInstance to its SRecordMeta should be via getMeta() and that is normally implemented to refer to a static and so is not serialized.  So we use the normal Java class loader mechanism to avoid duplicating SRecordMeta information.
>
>So what exactly is your "other error"?  Is it an error that arises because the interfaces are commented out?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Anthony
>
>At 12:13 AM 18/02/2009, you wrote:
>
>>I removed seriability on the meta, and it doesn't break our application. 
>>But we don't directly use
>>serialization. Last year (or even before), a colleague try it without 
>>success.
>>As in the team nobody is comfortable with serialization we decided not 
>>to use it !
>>We though we had missed something but we didn't know what, we though 
>>SORM was OK but our code not !
>>
>>But I use Tomcat to run our application. Tomcat tries to serialize 
>>session and
>>we sometimes put SRecordInstance in Session (not directly, but 
>>SRecordInstance are finally serialized).
>>
>>I never saw such a deserialization working...
>>
>>Now, after removing seriability I had other error. I think we should put 
>>all the Sorm meta transient in our SRecordInstance
>>as they are not serializable yet. We've got a lot a SRecordInstance ! 
>>... I may try on the one that raise error in console first.
>>
>>I hope I helped ... !
>>
>>Damien
>>
>><mailto:anthony%40berglas.org>[email protected] a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I just removed "implements Serializable" from both SRecordMeta and 
>>> SFieldMeta. As expected, all the unit tests passed.
>>>
>>> I strongly suspect that we should just remove them period.
>>>
>>> Could people please try this quick experiment. Just comment them out 
>>> and see if anything breaks (and why).
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> Dr Anthony Berglas, <mailto:anthony%40berglas.org>[email protected] <mailto:anthony%40berglas.org> 
>>> Mobile: +61 4 4838 8874
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>>>
>>> 
>>
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