Re: Just putting up some forms on the web...

Wicket seems to be mainly about adding components to a HTML page.  But my take is that in real development the HTML gets abstracted away.  Somewhere you have a method that puts up a pretty header, but you should only need to write that once.  Real customization then happens at a deeper level.  

The other examples on Wicket do not inspire me, although it looks much, much cleaner than JSF.   Might have good component set.  The example to look for is basic List or Crud.

Lift could be OK, have not had time to look at it.  Web page does not provide easy intro.

Anything is better than JSF, except Struts.

Anthony


At 11:29 AM 9/01/2010, you wrote:
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>Have you looked at Wicket or Lift?
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><mailto:berglas%40SpreadsheetDetective.com>[email protected] wrote:
>> Simplets is a good approach, but it needs significant work. SimpleWebApp can do it, but it uses JSPs which is bad. Ruby can do quick and dirty, but ultimately limiting. There are many Java solutions, but they are horrible. Avoid JSF.
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>> If people want to help it would not take much effort to get Simplets up to doing quick List/Maintenance forms like SimpleWebApp does, but without the JSP. 
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>> Have a look at Salesforce.com for quick and dirty hosted aps.
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>> Anthony
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>> At 07:39 AM 9/01/2010, you wrote:
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>>> I'm wanting to build some UI for my database. Just some forms, really. It's postgresql.
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>>> Since I use SimpleORM, I thought to look into SimpleWebApp. I see it's been discontinued in favour of Simplets. Simplets looks interesting, but still requires writing a little bit of code for every form.
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>>> I just want to put my tables on the web. Make them editable tables, preferably with LDAP sign on for permissions. 
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>>> I don't really want to write any (much) code right now. I mean, sure I'm going to want to write code eventually, eventually I'm imagining maybe something like Ruby on Rails that uses UNM Mapserver <<http://mapserver.org/>http://mapserver.org/>http://mapâ€â€¹server.orgâ€â€¹/€¹/ and <<http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/>http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/>http://vis.stanford.edu/protovis/ for fancy visualization of my model results. Sometime long into the future I might even try to make web based editable maps.
>>>
>>> But first, right now, I just want to put my postgresql tables onto the web as forms. I'd like to choose either one-form-per-table (each row is a record) or one form per record.
>>>
>>> What should I use? For some reason I really can't seem to find an easy solution. Some people are starting to tell me I should just use MS Access, because it has forms built in. But it's not open source, not client-server, platform specific, and all those other bad things. I need another solution. I suppose it doesn't have to be web based, it could be a java app (that runs with webstart to avoid install issues) but I've tried and failed pretty miserably writing Swing once before, I don't want to have to write code to place the table and fill in the columns.) I just want one-row-per-record or one-form-per-record. 
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>>> Any and all ideas appreciated. If this is too off-topic, please send me an email personally. Even one-word suggestions are welcome.
>>>
>>> --
>>> John Abraham
>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:jabraham%40ucalgary.ca>[email protected]
>>>
>>> 
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