Re: Re: Generator, and Subversion URL, and new distribution system?

"Franck Routier [email protected] [SimpleORM]" <[email protected]> Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:47:04 +0100
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Hi,

the generator part has indeed been untouched for a long time.
We never really used it, as we took a simplier (but really custom) 
approach, generating the records meta with an Eclipse plugin, based on 
naming conventions of our tables and columns (and not based on jdbc 
metadata).
That said, I'm willing to help, would you need any advice.

Please keep the list informed !

Best regards,
Franck


Le 13/11/2014 04:33, anthony berglas [email protected] [SimpleORM] a 
écrit :
> Also in the README off the Thankyou page.
>
> There is currently one active user of the software, which is not me.  
> So the current version works well, but you will need to support 
> yourself.  But it is ... Simple.
>
> Anthony
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Abraham [email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]> [SimpleORM] <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Arghh pushed "send" minutes before finding it on sourceforge
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleorm/
>
>
>     It looks like the generator hasn’t been touched since 2009.
>
>     --
>     John Abraham
>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     403-232-1060 <tel:403-232-1060>
>
>     On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:33 PM, John Abraham <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>>     Is there a subversion URL for SimpleORM so I can see the commit
>>     logs, and get the latest version?  Or will I need to download the
>>     zip file and do a new vendor branch import
>>     <https://www.bethel.edu/its/kb/server-team/web-tech/svn-merge-vendor>?
>>
>>     Should we be moving this whole operation over to github or
>>     something like that, to increase visibility and/or support?  I’m
>>     not a big fan of git or github /per se/, but nowadays if an open
>>     source project has a static web page like
>>     http://www.simpleorm.org <http://www.simpleorm.org/>, one has to
>>     fill out a form <http://www.simpleorm.org/sorm/download.html> to
>>     download the sources, and one can’t see the number of downloads
>>     and commit history, people might not want to download it.  I
>>     think an updated source code distribution system might serve to
>>     attract new users (and I think a bigger community would be a good
>>     thing.)
>>
>>     I’m doing a new software project starting with a database design
>>     (in pgmodeler), which generates XML and populates the database
>>     tables in PostgreSQL.  Then I used the SimpleOrmGenerator in
>>     /extras/SimpleORMGenerate/src to build the files to link to the
>>     database.  I see my version of the generator does not generate
>>     SFieldReference objects.  I know the generator hasn’t been kept
>>     up-to-date, but I think my version might be very old.  It looks
>>     like my last vendor import was 3.11 from October 09.   Has the
>>     generator since updated for version 3.0?
>>
>>     --
>>     John Abraham
>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>     403-232-1060 <tel:403-232-1060>
>>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> Dr Anthony Berglas, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
> Mobile: +61 4 4838 8874
> Just because it is possible to push twigs along the ground with ones nose
> does not necessarily mean that that is the best way to collect firewood.
>
> 


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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    the generator part has indeed been untouched for a long time.<br>
    We never really used it, as we took a simplier (but really custom)
    approach, generating the records meta with an Eclipse plugin, based
    on naming conventions of our tables and columns (and not based on
    jdbc metadata).<br>
    That said, I'm willing to help, would you need any advice.<br>
    <br>
    Please keep the list informed !<br>
    <br>
    Best regards,<br>
    Franck<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 13/11/2014 04:33, anthony berglas
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> [SimpleORM] a écrit :<br>
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                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">Also in the
                README off the Thankyou page.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">There is
                currently one active user of the software, which is not
                me.  So the current version works well, but you will
                need to support yourself.  But it is ... Simple.</div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;"><br>
              </div>
              <div class="gmail_default"
                style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;">Anthony</div>
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            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM,
                John Abraham <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
                [SimpleORM] <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:[email protected]"
                    target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px
                  #ccc solid;">
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                    <span> </span>
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                          <p>Arghh pushed "send" minutes before finding
                            it on sourceforge <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleorm/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleorm/</a>
                             </p>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>It looks like the generator hasn’t been
                            touched since 2009.<br>
                            <div><span class=""><br>
                                <div>
                                  <span
style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;">
                                    <div>--</div>
                                    <div>John Abraham</div>
                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                        target="_blank">[email protected]</a></div>
                                    <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="tel:403-232-1060"
                                        value="+14032321060"
                                        target="_blank">403-232-1060</a></div>
                                  </span>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                              </span>
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                                <div class="h5">
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                                    <div>On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:33 PM,
                                      John Abraham &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:[email protected]"
                                        target="_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:</div>
                                    <br>
                                    <blockquote type="cite">
                                      <div>
                                        <div>Is there a subversion URL
                                          for SimpleORM so I can see the
                                          commit logs, and get the
                                          latest version?  Or will I
                                          need to download the zip file
                                          and do a new <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.bethel.edu/its/kb/server-team/web-tech/svn-merge-vendor"
                                            target="_blank">vendor
                                            branch import</a>?</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Should we be moving this
                                          whole operation over to github
                                          or something like that, to
                                          increase visibility and/or
                                          support?  I’m not a big fan of
                                          git or github <i>per se</i>,
                                          but nowadays if an open source
                                          project has a static web page
                                          like <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.simpleorm.org/" target="_blank">http://www.simpleorm.org</a>,
                                          one has to <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://www.simpleorm.org/sorm/download.html"
                                            target="_blank">fill out a
                                            form</a> to download the
                                          sources, and one can’t see the
                                          number of downloads and commit
                                          history, people might not want
                                          to download it.  I think an
                                          updated source code
                                          distribution system might
                                          serve to attract new users
                                          (and I think a bigger
                                          community would be a good
                                          thing.)</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I’m doing a new software
                                          project starting with a
                                          database design (in
                                          pgmodeler), which generates
                                          XML and populates the database
                                          tables in PostgreSQL.  Then I
                                          used the SimpleOrmGenerator in
                                          /extras/SimpleORMGenerate/src
                                          to build the files to link to
                                          the database.  I see my
                                          version of the generator does
                                          not generate SFieldReference
                                          objects.  I know the generator
                                          hasn’t been kept up-to-date,
                                          but I think my version might
                                          be very old.  It looks like my
                                          last vendor import was 3.11
                                          from October 09.   Has the
                                          generator since updated for
                                          version 3.0?</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <span
                                              style="border-collapse:separate;">
                                              <div>--</div>
                                              <div>John Abraham</div>
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a></div>
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:403-232-1060" value="+14032321060" target="_blank">403-232-1060</a></div>
                                            </span>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
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              -- <br>
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                <p>Dr Anthony Berglas, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>      
                  Mobile: +61 4 4838 8874<br>
                  Just because it is possible to push twigs along the
                  ground with ones nose<br>
                  does not necessarily mean that that is the best way to
                  collect firewood.</p>
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