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Hello John,
Good to know that you are using it. I am currently doing work that just
does not require an ORM. Frank has made many valuable contributions and is
very familiar with the code, which is not that complex. But I have limited
ability to support you these days.
The Java world really needs something like SimpleOrm that is not
Hibernate. And something that does UI simply and ties the UI to the data
without the need for lots of code.
Regards,
Anthony
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 5:41 AM, John Abraham [email protected] [SimpleORM]
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Franck. I may tweak the foreign key part of the generator, it
> doesn=E2=80=99t generate the SFieldReference.
>
> Anthony: there is certainly more than one active user of the software.
> There are at least two, Franck and I :). Well, I have some employees too=
,
> so if we count those, there is another "active" user and a few more
> "passive" users. Then there are my customers=E2=80=A6 a number of
> "installations"...
>
> --
> John Abraham
> [email protected]
> 403-232-1060
>
> On Nov 13, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Franck Routier [email protected]
> [SimpleORM] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> the generator part has indeed been untouched for a long time.
> We never really used it, as we took a simplier (but really custom)
> approach, generating the records meta with an Eclipse plugin, based on
> naming conventions of our tables and columns (and not based on jdbc
> metadata).
> That said, I'm willing to help, would you need any advice.
>
> Please keep the list informed !
>
> Best regards,
> Franck
>
>
> Le 13/11/2014 04:33, anthony berglas [email protected] [SimpleORM] a
> =C3=A9crit :
>
>
> Also in the README off the Thankyou page.
>
> There is currently one active user of the software, which is not me. So
> the current version works well, but you will need to support yourself. B=
ut
> it is ... Simple.
>
> Anthony
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Abraham [email protected]
> [SimpleORM] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Arghh pushed "send" minutes before finding it on sourceforge
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleorm/
>>
>> It looks like the generator hasn=E2=80=99t been touched since 2009.
>>
>> --
>> John Abraham
>> [email protected]
>> 403-232-1060
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:33 PM, John Abraham <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a subversion URL for SimpleORM so I can see the commit logs, an=
d
>> get the latest version? Or will I need to download the zip file and do =
a
>> new vendor branch import
>> <https://www.bethel.edu/its/kb/server-team/web-tech/svn-merge-vendor>?
>>
>> Should we be moving this whole operation over to github or something lik=
e
>> that, to increase visibility and/or support? I=E2=80=99m not a big fan =
of git or
>> github *per se*, but nowadays if an open source project has a static web
>> page like http://www.simpleorm.org, one has to fill out a form
>> <http://www.simpleorm.org/sorm/download.html> to download the sources,
>> and one can=E2=80=99t see the number of downloads and commit history, pe=
ople might
>> not want to download it. I think an updated source code distribution
>> system might serve to attract new users (and I think a bigger community
>> would be a good thing.)
>>
>> I=E2=80=99m doing a new software project starting with a database design=
(in
>> pgmodeler), which generates XML and populates the database tables in
>> PostgreSQL. Then I used the SimpleOrmGenerator in
>> /extras/SimpleORMGenerate/src to build the files to link to the database=
.
>> I see my version of the generator does not generate SFieldReference
>> objects. I know the generator hasn=E2=80=99t been kept up-to-date, but =
I think my
>> version might be very old. It looks like my last vendor import was 3.11
>> from October 09. Has the generator since updated for version 3.0?
>>
>> --
>> John Abraham
>> [email protected]
>> 403-232-1060
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Dr Anthony Berglas, [email protected] Mobile: +61 4 4838 8874
> Just because it is possible to push twigs along the ground with ones nose
> does not necessarily mean that that is the best way to collect firewood.
>
>
>
>
>=20=20
>
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Dr Anthony Berglas, [email protected] Mobile: +61 4 4838 8874
Just because it is possible to push twigs along the ground with ones nose
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif">Hello John,</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:verdana,sans-serif">Good to know that you are using it.=C2=A0 I am=
currently doing work that just does not require an ORM.=C2=A0 Frank has ma=
de many valuable contributions and is very familiar with the code, which is=
not that complex.=C2=A0 But I have limited ability to support you these da=
ys.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-ser=
if"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,san=
s-serif">The Java world really needs something like SimpleOrm that is not H=
ibernate.=C2=A0 And something that does UI simply and ties the UI to the da=
ta without the need for lots of code.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Regards,</div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D=
"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Anthony</div></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 14, =
2014 at 5:41 AM, John Abraham <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">jea@hbas=
pecto.com</a> [SimpleORM] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:SimpleORM=
@yahoogroups.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span=
> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<u></u>
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<span>=C2=A0</span>
<div>
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<p>Thanks Franck. =C2=A0 I may tweak the foreign key part of the gene=
rator, it doesn=E2=80=99t generate the SFieldReference.</p><div><br></div><=
div>Anthony: there is certainly more than one active user of the software.=
=C2=A0 There are at least two, Franck and I :).=C2=A0 Well, I have some emp=
loyees too, so if we count those, there is another "active" user =
and a few more "passive" users.=C2=A0 Then there are my customers=
=E2=80=A6 a number of "installations"...</div><div><br></div><div=
><span>--</span></div><div><div><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate"><d=
iv>John Abraham</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_b=
lank">[email protected]</a></div><div><a href=3D"tel:403-232-1060" value=3D=
"+14032321060" target=3D"_blank">403-232-1060</a></div></span>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<br><div><div>On Nov 13, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Franck Routier <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a> [=
SimpleORM] <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te"><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start=
;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal"><div style=3D"font=
-size:13px;font-family:Arial,helvetica,clean,sans-serif"><div><div style=3D=
"font-family:Georgia"><p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 1em">Hi,<br><br>the genera=
tor part has indeed been untouched for a long time.<br>We never really used=
it, as we took a simplier (but really custom) approach, generating the rec=
ords meta with an Eclipse plugin, based on naming conventions of our tables=
and columns (and not based on jdbc metadata).<br>That said, I'm willin=
g to help, would you need any advice.<br><br>Please keep the list informed =
!<br><br>Best regards,<br>Franck<br><br><br></p><div>Le 13/11/2014 04:33, a=
nthony berglas<span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><span>=C2=A0</span>[SimpleORM] a =C3=
=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 4px"><span>=C2=A0</span><div style=3D"font-family:Georgia"><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A=
lso in the README off the Thankyou page.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_defa=
ult" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif">There is currently one active=
user of the software, which is not me.=C2=A0 So the current version works =
well, but you will need to support yourself.=C2=A0 But it is ... Simple.</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-seri=
f">Anthony</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM, John Abraham<span>=C2=A0</span><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a><span=
>=C2=A0</span>[SimpleORM]<span>=C2=A0</span><span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">SimpleORM@yahoogrou=
ps.com</a>></span><span>=C2=A0</span>wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 4px;border-left-width:1px;border-left-=
color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid"><div style=3D"background-co=
lor:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>=C2=A0</span><div><div><div><p style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 1em">Arghh pushed "send" minutes before finding it on sou=
rceforge=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleorm/" style=
=3D"font-family:Verdana" target=3D"_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/=
simpleorm/</a><span>=C2=A0</span>=C2=A0</p><div><br></div><div>It looks lik=
e the generator hasn=E2=80=99t been touched since 2009.<br><div><span><br><=
div><span style=3D"border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-=
indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal"><div>--</div><div>John A=
braham</div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">jea=
@hbaspecto.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"tel:403-232-1060" value=3D"+1403232=
1060" target=3D"_blank">403-232-1060</a></div></span></div><br></span><div>=
<div><div><div>On Nov 12, 2014, at 3:33 PM, John Abraham <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</=
div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 4px"><div><di=
v>Is there a subversion URL for SimpleORM so I can see the commit logs, and=
get the latest version?=C2=A0 Or will I need to download the zip file and =
do a new=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.bethel.edu/its/kb/server-team/web-tech=
/svn-merge-vendor" target=3D"_blank">vendor branch import</a>?</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Should we be moving this whole operation over to github or som=
ething like that, to increase visibility and/or support?=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m =
not a big fan of git or github<span>=C2=A0</span><i>per se</i>, but nowaday=
s if an open source project has a static web page like=C2=A0<a href=3D"http=
://www.simpleorm.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.simpleorm.org</a>, one =
has to=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://www.simpleorm.org/sorm/download.html" target=
=3D"_blank">fill out a form</a>=C2=A0to download the sources, and one can=
=E2=80=99t see the number of downloads and commit history, people might not=
want to download it.=C2=A0 I think an updated source code distribution sys=
tem might serve to attract new users (and I think a bigger community would =
be a good thing.)</div><div><br></div><div>I=E2=80=99m doing a new software=
project starting with a database design (in pgmodeler), which generates XM=
L and populates the database tables in PostgreSQL.=C2=A0 Then I used the Si=
mpleOrmGenerator in /extras/SimpleORMGenerate/src to build the files to lin=
k to the database.=C2=A0 I see my version of the generator does not generat=
e SFieldReference objects.=C2=A0 I know the generator hasn=E2=80=99t been k=
ept up-to-date, but I think my version might be very old.=C2=A0 It looks li=
ke my last vendor import was 3.11 from October 09. =C2=A0 Has the generator=
since updated for version 3.0?</div><div><br></div><div><div><span style=
=3D"border-collapse:separate"><div>--</div><div>John Abraham</div><div><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a></d=
iv><div><a href=3D"tel:403-232-1060" value=3D"+14032321060" target=3D"_blan=
k">403-232-1060</a></div></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquo=
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v></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>--<span>=C2=
=A0</span><br><div><div style=3D"margin:0px 0px 1em"><br></div><p style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 1em">Dr Anthony Berglas,<span>=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]" style=3D"font-family:Verdana" target=3D"_blank">antho=
[email protected]</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<span>=C2=A0</span>Mo=
bile: +61 4 4838 8874<br>Just because it is possible to push twigs along th=
e ground with ones nose<br>does not necessarily mean that that is the best =
way to collect firewood.</p></div></div></div></blockquote><br><div style=
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</p><p>Dr Anthony Berglas, <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D=
"_blank">[email protected]</a>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mobile=
: +61 4 4838 8874<br>
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