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"Adi" <[email protected]> Mon, 21 Feb 2005 05:54:28 +0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.ozone.user
Message-ID <[email protected]>
hi per,
if you suggest me to open the java source, i have done 
with it.
but i really don't understand with this tools
really... i will read more and learn it.... thanks

can i ask you more question?

would you like to give me some example to use the odg's 
tool?
cause i have try it, but the error always occur
if i doesn't use the ocd file for simple example, what
will be happen with the code that generated by the opp?
can i create the ocd file manually?
and can i generate the ocd file with odg command line?

thanks a lot...
hope you help me
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 17:08:30 +0100
  Per Nyfelt <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Adi,
> 
> I do not have that information in my working memory and 
>I can not find the 
> time to look this up for you but I can tell you how you 
>can find out 
> yourself ;)
> 
> The way to find out how these things works if they are 
>not documented is to 
> look in the script for what Java class is is calling and 
>then find that Java 
> file in the source tree. From there you should be able 
>to find details of 
> exactly what each tool is doing. I gave you a short 
>description already so 
> you know roughly what they are doing. If there is 
>something in the source 
> code you do not understand I'd be more than happy to try 
>to help you out.
> 
> Best regards and good luck!
> Per
> 
> söndagen den 20 februari 2005 16.31 skrev Adi:
>> thanks for your answer...
>> sorry if i disturb you...
>> but i want to ask you more...
>>
>> can i get more explanation about lcp, odg, ozoneTest, 
>>and
>> ozoneStats.
>> can i get some documentation about it??? i cannot find 
>>it
>> in ozone dev and user doc
>> would you like to give me more explanation about that
>> tools?
>> especially for odg.
>> is there any documentation that explain the concept of
>> ozone tool? except the ozone documentation?
>>
>>
>> would you like to give me some example to use the odg's
>> tool?
>> i have try it, but the error always occur
>> if i doesn't use the ocd file for simple example, what
>> will be happen with the code that generated by the opp?
>> can i create the ocd file manually?
>> and can i generate the ocd file with odg command line?
>>
>>
>> i ask you much of question, cause i have give more
>> explanation to my teacher
>> i already work to final my final test on some college in
>> indonesia
>> thanks a lot for your explanation
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:00:51 +0100
>>
>>   Per Nyfelt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi Adi,
>> >
>> > Please see my answers below:
>> >
>> > söndagen den 20 februari 2005 12.34 skrev Adi:
>> >> i want to ask some question to answer my confuse
>> >> 1. is there any help about ozone tool???
>> >>     like lcp, odg, ozoneTest, ozoneStats.
>> >>     if yes, where i can get it?
>> >>     if not, would you like to explain to me?
>> >
>> > Some tools are described in the user manual.
>> > lcp is an internal command to extend the classpath.
>> > odg is an Ozone Descriptor Generator i.e. a tool to
>> >generate ocd files
>> > ozoneTest is to run junit tests for Ozone
>> > ozoneStats shows some statistics about storage such as
>> >nuber of clusters,
>> > transactions etc.
>> >
>> >> 2. in simple sample, why there is an .ocd file?
>> >>     what this function of .ocd file??
>> >>     is this file isa generated automatically? or must 
>>do
>> >> some statement?
>> >>     why in other sample do not have .ocd file?
>> >
>> > ocd is an Ozone Class Descriptor i.e. a XML file that
>> >describes meta data
>> > about the Ozone Object such as update methods and
>> >security properties. A
>> > simpler more direct approach is to mark update methods
>> >directly e.g. adding
>> > an @update tag or // update comment to the method but
>> >ocd files gives more
>> > flexibility.
>> >
>> >> 3. i think the documentation of ozone is not 
>>complete.
>> >>     i download the ozone binary. is there any 
>>completed
>> >> document that i can download?
>> >
>> > AFAIK the binary contain user guide, developer guide,
>> >admin guide and howtos.
>> > This is what we have today as formal documentation.
>> >Other than this there is
>> > Javadoc, source code and mail list archive. Using this
>> >you should be able to
>> > find answers to your questions. If you find anything
>> >lacking in the
>> > documentation please send in a patch to fix/compliment
>> >it.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Per
>> >
>> >> thanks, please reply my email as soon as possible.
>> >> thanks a lot
>> >
>> > We are all busy here: asking for a quick reply does 
>>not
>> >affect the time for
>> > someone to reply at all. If anything it will make it
>> >take longer time...
>> >
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