Re: project dependencies
Karl Wettin <[email protected]>
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I'm really only asking since the code will compile as 1.4. If you asked me I'd say 1.6. karl On Sep 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Justin T. Sampson wrote: > I was pretty shocked to hear Karl ask about 1.4. It's been dead a long time. > > Even 1.5 has already been end-of-lifed. I'd say go ahead with 1.6. > > You can see my generics attempts on one of the branches in Git. It's certainly powerful, but the generic signatures started getting really out of hand as I pushed them all the way through the code. It's likely that a more limited approach could be successful. > > But abandoning 1.4 is just the right thing to do regardless of using features from later releases. > > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Jacob Kjome <[email protected]> wrote: > Seems like it should be at least 1.5 at this point. The only reason I see for > sticking with Java 1.4 these days is maintaining legacy apps, which likely are not > going to use Prevayler anyway. And didn't Justin foray into a Java 1.5 > refactoring of Prevayler? I think he ended up saying that Generics (and possibly > other 1.5 features) didn't buy too much, but while it might not have been perfect, > was there no benefit at all? > > Any other opinions? > > Jake > > On 9/17/2011 8:53 AM, Karl Wettin wrote: > > Are we officially targeting Java 1.4? > > > > > > karl > > > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Justin T. Sampson wrote: > > > >> :) > >> > >> Thanks for the contribution! > >> > >> I think we generally found XStream to be nicer than Skaringa. We would > >> have dropped Skaringa a while ago, but I argued to keep it because it > >> was a good test case for custom serializers -- it was almost broken a > >> couple of times, because its behavior is different than XStream in > >> some subtle ways. But I'm fine with dropping it now. > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Alexandre Nodari > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> Skaringa :-( The first XML serialization implementation :-( My > >> first idea contributed to Prevayler :-( > >> > >> Just kidding... Drop it! :-) > >> > >> > >> 2011/9/14 Klaus Wuestefeld <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >> > >> Lets drop Skaringa and JavaMatch. > >> > >> Details: > >> [13/09/2011 21:57:18] Karl Wettin: however, you should let me know > >> what it is you want to do with prevayler and maven > >> [13/09/2011 21:57:32] Karl Wettin: i have a couple of days > >> coming up i > >> can spend on things like this > >> [13/09/2011 21:57:57] Klaus Wuestefeld: nice :) > >> [13/09/2011 21:58:07] Klaus Wuestefeld: I have a conference > >> starting in 2 mins > >> [13/09/2011 21:58:32] Karl Wettin: eg how do you feel about major > >> refactoring of the modules? could we try to come up with > >> something so > >> we get the most of it out without any deps? > >> [13/09/2011 21:58:34] Karl Wettin: okok > >> [13/09/2011 21:58:35] Klaus Wuestefeld: I think we can simply > >> delete > >> all dependencies: skaringa, jmatch > >> [13/09/2011 21:58:58] Klaus Wuestefeld: is xstream on maven > >> central? > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:07] Klaus Wuestefeld: What other deps do we > >> have? > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:08] Karl Wettin: i think the biggest problem > >> is the > >> PrevaylerFactory > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:14] Karl Wettin: which use pretty much all deps > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:32] Klaus Wuestefeld: We can simply delete > >> skaringa stuff > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:37] Klaus Wuestefeld: what else? > >> [13/09/2011 21:59:54] Karl Wettin: ill have to create a deps > >> map, im > >> sure maven have some tool for that > >> [13/09/2011 22:00:12] Karl Wettin: but ok, i'll do my best at > >> removing all deps > >> [13/09/2011 22:00:25] Klaus Wuestefeld: Could you post on the list > >> what the deps are? > >> [01:44:46] Klaus Wuestefeld: Apparently skaringa and xstream > >> are the > >> only deps in the factory... > >> [08:42:55] Karl Wettin: did my mail reach the list? not sure, > >> port 25 > >> might be blocked on my 3g carrier (local smtp) > >> [08:43:05] Karl Wettin: mvn depencecy:list > >> [08:43:09] Karl Wettin: that does the trick > >> [08:43:29] Karl Wettin: you might have to clone > >> karl.wettin/prevayler > >> in order for it to work though > >> [10:44:50] Klaus Wuestefeld: Did justin add you as > >> collaborator on his > >> prevayler repo? > >> [10:45:05] Karl Wettin: nope > >> [10:45:20] Karl Wettin: atleast not htat i know > >> [10:45:21] Karl Wettin: let me check > >> [10:46:51] Karl Wettin: nope > >> [10:46:53] Karl Wettin: i'm not > >> [10:52:22] Klaus Wuestefeld: I would really like you to apply the > >> maven stuff on the prevayler repo. Do you think the fork + pull > >> request method will work for you or will it be much easier to > >> become a > >> collaborator? > >> [10:52:54] Klaus Wuestefeld: I never used fork+pull resquests. > >> [10:53:11] Karl Wettin: i hate git : ) it never works the way > >> i want it to. > >> [10:53:18] Karl Wettin: but sure > >> [10:53:36] Klaus Wuestefeld: Curious: What do you use instead? > >> [10:53:38] Karl Wettin: there are a few things though, the pom > >> i my > >> repo points at vps.kodapan.se/maven > >> <http://vps.kodapan.se/maven> for deps > >> [10:53:44] Karl Wettin: which might not be optimal > >> [10:54:05] Klaus Wuestefeld: Sure > >> [10:54:09] Klaus Wuestefeld: Lets use maven central > >> [10:54:31] Karl Wettin: the problem is that some deps are not in > >> there. and if we remove the deps then maven will not compile > >> [10:54:50] Karl Wettin: or it will require users to manually > >> install deps > >> [10:54:57] Karl Wettin: and i dont think we want that > >> [10:55:22] Klaus Wuestefeld: Drop skaringa. > >> [10:55:28] Klaus Wuestefeld: Delete all skaringa related code. > >> [10:55:34] Klaus Wuestefeld: Is xstream on central? > >> [10:55:42] Klaus Wuestefeld: Any other deps? > >> [10:56:00] Karl Wettin: javamatch > >> [10:56:07] Klaus Wuestefeld: Drop all JavaMatch code too. Its > >> just the demo. > >> [10:56:09] Karl Wettin: xpp3 is on central > >> [10:56:18] Karl Wettin: skaringa r1p8 is on central > >> [10:56:23] Klaus Wuestefeld: And it cramps the live reaction > >> style of the demo. > >> [10:56:53] Klaus Wuestefeld: JavaMatch is distracting in the > >> demo. Lets drop it. > >> [10:57:14] Klaus Wuestefeld: Skaringa r1p8 is this ok for us? > >> [10:57:50] Karl Wettin: let me see > >> [10:58:05] Karl Wettin: btw, http://search.maven.org/ > >> [10:59:04] Karl Wettin: we use > >> [INFO] skaringa:skaringa:jar:r4p0:compile > >> [10:59:07] Klaus Wuestefeld: You are a comitter to the > >> prevayler-site > >> repo, in case you need to prove you own the demain to update our > >> maven-central entry. > >> [10:59:17] Klaus Wuestefeld: Drop skaringa. > >> [10:59:30] Klaus Wuestefeld: domain > >> [10:59:38] Karl Wettin: xpp version is ok though > >> [11:00:59] Karl Wettin: xstream is also ok > >> [11:01:08] Karl Wettin: so yeah, its skaringa and javamatch. > >> nothing else > >> [11:01:34] Klaus Wuestefeld: Cool. Lets drop them. > >> [11:02:41] Karl Wettin: ok. i think there has been no changes to > >> jsampson/prevayler since my fork > >> [11:02:52] Karl Wettin: lets work in mine for now and then > >> merge it > >> all if its all good > >> [11:02:56] Karl Wettin: ill give you access > >> [11:03:47] Karl Wettin: whats your gitname? > >> [11:04:16] Karl Wettin: and then i'll merge it all up for us. > >> [11:05:12] Klaus Wuestefeld: If that is the case, I prefer > >> justin gave > >> you commit > >> [11:05:23] Karl Wettin: ok, what not > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> BlackBerry® DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA > >> Learn about the latest advances in developing for the > >> BlackBerry® mobile platform with sessions, labs & more. > >> See new tools and technologies. 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