Re: robowiki are down now

Thanks for the update Patrick,
As a new person to Robocode it is apparent that there isn't a lot of active 
community left, except for this google group, which is a shame.  

For me Robocode gives an opportunity to improve my Java programming in a 
fun and interesting way. It would be more enjoyable if we did have a more 
active community(robowiki/google groups) with access to bots 
(robocoderepository), but I can understand why since innovation reached its 
peak in the early 2000's.  What I don't understand is why the game itself 
wasn't expanded.  You could do a lot to alter the game but still keep the 
feel.  Incorporate 3D, varried terrain heights, obstacles, secondary weapon 
types.  There is a lot that could be added.

Anyway, my $0.02.  I still enjoy working away on my robot, even if it will 
never be a perfect wavesurfer




On Saturday, 18 July 2015 11:04:23 UTC-7, Patrick Cupka wrote:
>
> Hey guys - late to the dialogue, but a few things to mention. (Beware: 
> wall of text incoming.)
>
> The wiki mostly runs itself and is hosted at VPSLink, which is pretty 
> reliable. The problem during downtime is that neither myself, who "owns" 
> the wiki (i.e., from PEZ), nor David Alves, who actually pays for hosting, 
> actually care so much about Robocode anymore. When your heart's not in it, 
> there are plenty of other things that take precedence.
>
> I believe MediaWiki has a facility to export all the pages to an XML 
> format. We could make the full archive available somewhere (eg, someone's 
> Dropbox) every so often, if it's something people are interested in. Then 
> you can do whatever you want with it. It strikes me as the kind of thing 
> people say they want, then nobody would actually download it. :-) But we 
> could try.
>
> There's certainly nobody acting as a gatekeeper here to keep it single 
> sourced. There are no ads. PEZ and I gave a dump of the old wiki to someone 
> upon request a while back. The RoboWiki is all about sharing Robocode 
> knowledge.
>
> There are plenty of other programming games, but nothing in the same 
> league as Robocode as far as number of bots or active competitions. Then 
> again, people also complain that there is nothing new to be innovated in 
> Robocode, so it's a double-edged sword. I like to joke that it's the 
> "Google Reader of programming games" – it got a huge corporate push from 
> IBM, it smothers the rest of the market (tons of bots, history, Java, name 
> recognition), and might need to die off before all these other games can 
> blossom - hopefully with some kind of common community, as well as 
> communities of their own.
>
> I have my own offering: BerryBots (http://berrybots.com). You can read a 
> comparison to Robocode gameplay here: 
> http://berrybots.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17 ... Or even try it in a 
> browser: http://playberrybots.com. Primarily, it features programmable 
> stages, walls on the playing field, and a secondary weapon (grenade-like). 
> It also has a pretty sweet automation API with built-in multithreading, 
> (optional) graphical form inputs, and the ability to save HTML5 replays of 
> matches. There are only a few bots, but I'd be hella impressed if you can 
> beat Sanic (from Frohman).
>
> The other games that have caught my eye are FightCodeGame.com, a fully 
> web based Robocode-inspired game; and NodeWar.com, which might be the 
> only truly inspiring / innovative gameplay I've seen. I'd also check out 
> http://programminggames.org, which seems to be gaining steam.
>
> I sympathize with the desire to join a large, active community. But the 
> RoboWiki might make the Robocode community seem a lot more active than it 
> is. Good luck catching me and Skilgannon while we never update our bots. ;) 
> At some point, we have to make something new. I suspect even "Robocode 2" 
> will have the same problems as the rest of the new entrants into the genre.
>
> Hope that's enlightening! Best of luck,
>
> -- Patrick
>
> Sent from mobile
>
> On May 4, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Jesse Clark <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> I'll raise my hand.  I just don't know what would need to be done though 
> since I've never done this before.  Would a service such as 
> http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page suffice?  Can anyone provide some 
> other guidance on a good way to host that is minimal cost?  Also, how would 
> one obtain the current wiki content?
>
> Question.  Is robocode still viable or are there other better, widely 
> used, supported platforms along the same vein?  Please advise.  I'm looking 
> to work with a platform like robocode to ultimately compete against others..
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:57 PM, ramn.se ‘¸ <[email protected] <javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> How do we get hold of the database?
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Pavel Šavara <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody, 
>>>
>>> it would be perhaps good idea if all people who think robowiki is 
>>> important would try to help.
>>> Somebody may try to run mirror, or perhaps somebody would organize and 
>>> run it on more stable hosting ?
>>> Perhaps people would donate some cash needed to pay for the hosting ?
>>> Just suggestions, in the end it's community project, right ?
>>>
>>> Anybody at all ? Raise your hands !
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I hope they fix it soon... It's really important for many people!
>>>>
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