Re: robowiki are down now

Hi again,

I have now checked out the Wiki available at the SourceForge site. It is 
extremely simple and probably only useful as pages shared between the 
developers of the project. It will not be possible to migrate RoboWiki into 
this wiki. That is for sure.

I have had a look for a free wiki hosting service and have found Orain Wiki 
<http://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page> hosting. There are lots of other free 
wiki hosting services 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services> out 
there. But Orain seems to have lots of benefits - even though it is free.
Perhaps it would be possible to export and import the RoboWiki to Orain. 
This way the hosting will be free. However, there is no guarantee that 
problems will occur with Orain. If you guys know of a better alternative, 
then please speak up. :-)

We could also export the RoboWiki to static HTML pages. Then I could pay 
for the web hosting and copy all the static HTML to this place?

What do you guys think is the best way to proceed?

Best regards,
- Flemming

Den lørdag den 18. juli 2015 kl. 20.04.23 UTC+2 skrev Patrick Cupka:
>
> Hey guys - late to the dialogue, but a few things to mention. (Beware: 
> wall of text incoming.)
>
> The wiki mostly runs itself and is hosted at VPSLink, which is pretty 
> reliable. The problem during downtime is that neither myself, who "owns" 
> the wiki (i.e., from PEZ), nor David Alves, who actually pays for hosting, 
> actually care so much about Robocode anymore. When your heart's not in it, 
> there are plenty of other things that take precedence.
>
> I believe MediaWiki has a facility to export all the pages to an XML 
> format. We could make the full archive available somewhere (eg, someone's 
> Dropbox) every so often, if it's something people are interested in. Then 
> you can do whatever you want with it. It strikes me as the kind of thing 
> people say they want, then nobody would actually download it. :-) But we 
> could try.
>
> There's certainly nobody acting as a gatekeeper here to keep it single 
> sourced. There are no ads. PEZ and I gave a dump of the old wiki to someone 
> upon request a while back. The RoboWiki is all about sharing Robocode 
> knowledge.
>
> There are plenty of other programming games, but nothing in the same 
> league as Robocode as far as number of bots or active competitions. Then 
> again, people also complain that there is nothing new to be innovated in 
> Robocode, so it's a double-edged sword. I like to joke that it's the 
> "Google Reader of programming games" – it got a huge corporate push from 
> IBM, it smothers the rest of the market (tons of bots, history, Java, name 
> recognition), and might need to die off before all these other games can 
> blossom - hopefully with some kind of common community, as well as 
> communities of their own.
>
> I have my own offering: BerryBots (http://berrybots.com). You can read a 
> comparison to Robocode gameplay here: 
> http://berrybots.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17 ... Or even try it in a 
> browser: http://playberrybots.com. Primarily, it features programmable 
> stages, walls on the playing field, and a secondary weapon (grenade-like). 
> It also has a pretty sweet automation API with built-in multithreading, 
> (optional) graphical form inputs, and the ability to save HTML5 replays of 
> matches. There are only a few bots, but I'd be hella impressed if you can 
> beat Sanic (from Frohman).
>
> The other games that have caught my eye are FightCodeGame.com, a fully 
> web based Robocode-inspired game; and NodeWar.com, which might be the 
> only truly inspiring / innovative gameplay I've seen. I'd also check out 
> http://programminggames.org, which seems to be gaining steam.
>
> I sympathize with the desire to join a large, active community. But the 
> RoboWiki might make the Robocode community seem a lot more active than it 
> is. Good luck catching me and Skilgannon while we never update our bots. ;) 
> At some point, we have to make something new. I suspect even "Robocode 2" 
> will have the same problems as the rest of the new entrants into the genre.
>
> Hope that's enlightening! Best of luck,
>
> -- Patrick
>
> Sent from mobile
>
> On May 4, 2015, at 4:32 PM, Jesse Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'll raise my hand.  I just don't know what would need to be done though 
> since I've never done this before.  Would a service such as 
> http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page suffice?  Can anyone provide some 
> other guidance on a good way to host that is minimal cost?  Also, how would 
> one obtain the current wiki content?
>
> Question.  Is robocode still viable or are there other better, widely 
> used, supported platforms along the same vein?  Please advise.  I'm looking 
> to work with a platform like robocode to ultimately compete against others..
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:57 PM, ramn.se ‘¸ <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How do we get hold of the database?
>>
>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Pavel Šavara <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody, 
>>>
>>> it would be perhaps good idea if all people who think robowiki is 
>>> important would try to help.
>>> Somebody may try to run mirror, or perhaps somebody would organize and 
>>> run it on more stable hosting ?
>>> Perhaps people would donate some cash needed to pay for the hosting ?
>>> Just suggestions, in the end it's community project, right ?
>>>
>>> Anybody at all ? Raise your hands !
>>>
>>> Pavel
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I hope they fix it soon... It's really important for many people!
>>>>
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