RE: 5.1 initial experiences

Tamas Balazs



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-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, 29 August 2014 11:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: 5.1 initial experiences


On 08/28/2014 09:02 PM, Tamas Balazs wrote:
>
> I updated my 5.04 installation to 5.1. Probably I haven’t done it to
> the right way as there were few issues such as:
>

If you're just starting out, or have only a few pages/blog entries, it may be better to start with a clean 5.1 install and forget about 5.0.4, or just manually move over what you created.

||||I CANNOT DO THAT UNFORTUNATELY - TOO MUCH EFFORT THAT WOULD BE||||



> -Templates looked a bit confused. I had a brief look in facuxcoly and
> it seemed broken – other templates seemed out of order a bit, but
> haven’t investigated further – plus Sotto has never worked for me even
> in 5.04.
>

The theme.xml's in each theme have undergone a change (specifically,
https://gist.github.com/gmazza/87e3728225f30d23855d) and would need to be updated for 5.1.  (All the Roller themes in roller extras have been updated to 5.1 format:
https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/roller-extras/wiki/Themes), the install guide says how to add them in basically, just add them to webapps/themes folder of the Roller WAR.

Sotto and Brushed Metal are gone in 5.1, they've been moved to roller-extras.  Instead of maintaining many different themes based on appearance within Roller trunk -- which ends up bogging the team down with busywork and driving away volunteers -- we're trying to move to just a minimal set of themes that each demonstrate a specific functionality or technology in creating themes, and then letting users create their own themes based our examples or importing what they want from roller-extras.  Fauxcoly is planned on being recreated using Zurb Foundation, but hasn't been done yet. (It should work OOTB though.)

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> -After swapping a pre-added template it did not got reflected on the
> blog – I had to restart tomcat to see the changes.
>

I'm not sure what "swapping" means in this context.  I think there's an auto-refresh option for templates configurable in roller-custom.properties.  I've never had a need to use or test it though.

|||WHEN I CHANGED (SWAPPED) TEMPLATE IT DIDN'T GET REFLECETD. I HAVE AUTO-REFRESH OPTION IN DEFAULT MODE - WHATEVER IS THAT|||

> -One of my blog suddenly started to lose its URL structure thus giving
> me 404. Something like example.com/test/entry/blabla has become
> example.com/test/test/entry/blabla. This was not fun at all, so I
> rolled everything back to 5.04.
>

Perhaps you did not make "test" your default blog in 5.1, which would have removed the need for one of those "test"s in the URL. That said, such a setting should have stayed with the database migration.  5.04 will work (at least until the next security advisory of one of its
dependencies) but is architecturally a dead end.

|||YOU ARE RIGHT, TEST WAS NOT MY DEFAULT BLOG|||
|||RE SECURITY ADVISORIES WILL THERE BE ANYONE SENDING AN EMAIL TO THIS LIST QUOTING WHAT ELEMENT IS AFFECTED AND SOME REFERENCE TO THE ADVISORY?|||

> When I did the update the database update section stalled too – had
> the initial log screen dump saying what is going on in the DB  then it
> stalled. After closing the browser window and restart it again it
> seemed everything is ok.
>

We tested the automated 5.0.4 --> 5.1 migration several times with both MySQL and Derby, no problems.  Per section 10.2 in the install guide, if you did a manual database migration, however, some changes to the SQL script are necessary as described in that section.

|||I DID NOT DO THE MANUAL UPDATE - BUT I WAS RUNNING 5.04 AND 5.1 SIMULTANEOUSLY AND IT IS LIKELY THAT I RUN OUT OF MEMORY - SO THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MY BAD ACTUALLY|||

> Well, this is my experience. Hope this helps
>

Thanks for the candid feedback.
|||NO WORRIES - I WILL POST HERE WITH MY EXPERIENCES  AFTER I TRY THE MIGRATION AGAIN|||
Glen


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