Switching frameworks (was: what about adding spring ?)

Johannes Hoechstaedter:

>What I can add from my side: If an outdated framework, should be 
>replaced by a new and better supported one, I agree with that, as long 
>as the effort is not too heavy. I can't give too much time into Scarab 
>right now. I am against adding a new framework, or library, as long 
>nothing will be replaced by this, or no new feature is added.

+1

Don't underestimate the effort. 
Andrey tried to switch Scarab only from the unfinished Turbine3 back to Turbine2.4.
As it seems, he has given up. And he is not the first one who tried it.
Switching to a completely different Framework is probably much harder.

I also don't think, that switching the Frameworks should be our first priority right now.
Yes, some of the frameworks Scarab is using are not or poorly maintained or are quirky to use.
But they are usable.

The Scarab code itself is at least partly almost unusable. It's full of unnecessary complexity, redundancy and obsolete code. It's hard to understand and that's why hard to change or extend.

That's why refactoring should have a top priority, imo. I think a well refactored Scarab could have half the size of the current code base or even less, and be much easier to understand and more stable.

This would make it much easier to add new functionality and also to switch to a new framework.
In fact I think refactoring is the prerequisite for integrating major new functionality and switching frameworks.

It has not to be done in isolation, but it has to be done.

Ronny



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