RE: Discussion Topic #2 Databases

"Guijarro, Julio" <[email protected]> Thu, 19 Jan 2006 16:38:50 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.smartfrog.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thanks Hal. 

We did not know about that DB and it is LGPL.

http://www.daffodildb.com/onedollardb-opensource.html



Julio

> -----Original Message-----
> From: smartfrog-developer-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
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> developer-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Hal Hildebrand
> Sent: 19 January 2006 15:53
> To: Steve Loughran; smartfrog-developer
> Subject: RE: [Smartfrog-developer] Discussion Topic #2 Databases
> 
> You might want to check out One$DB - aka daffodil.  This is a full
> featured, pure Java DB that's also pure JDBC.  Probably one of the
nicest
> things in open source I've seen in quite a while (besides SmartFrog,
of
> course).
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: smartfrog-developer-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
[mailto:smartfrog-
> developer-admin-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Steve Loughran
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:23 AM
> To: smartfrog-developer
> Subject: [Smartfrog-developer] Discussion Topic #2 Databases
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This is just a note to start some discussion on the mailing list as to
> what people out there think SmartFrog needs in terms of database
support
> in the next year.
> 
> -We have a MySQL component from the seed project that we are thinking
of
> moving in to the SourceForge repository; I don't know what
> tests/documentation it has. Are there any interested users who could
> help with those?
> 
> -for demos and testing, HSQLDB is probably adequate, as it is the
> simplest of the pure-java datastores. It could have a component to
> configure it without too much effort.
> 
> -I haven't looked at Apache Derby at all.
> 
> I don't want to try and define generic database deployment components,
> because it only creates the illusion that you can switch database
> engines on the fly, which everyone knows is even less sensible than
> switching app servers between installations. But we might benefit from
> having some components whose aim in life is to create and issue SQL
> commands against JDBC bindings
> 
> It would have the following (probably syntactically incorrect)
components
> 
> -JdbcBinding to declare a JDBC binding
> -SqlTransaction for a SQL XA.
> -SqlLiveness to issue a select against a DB for liveness, failing with
> an error  or if the result count is more/less than expected, maybe
even
> a different value
> 
> -SqlDeployment to issue different commands/XAs when
> deploying/undeploying something. So at deploy time you could create a
> table, and at undeploy time it could be dropped.
> 
> The JDBC binding would look like this
> 
> mysql extends JdbcBinding {
>    classpath "optional-extra-jars";
>    classname "com.mysql.JdbcDriver";
>    url TBD;
>    user TBD;
>    password TBD;
> 
>    options  [["name","value"],["name2","value2"]];
> }
> 
> With a sql transaction a very thin wrapper around the java.sql API:
> 
> insert extends SqlTransaction {
> 
> 	id TBD;
> 	date TBD;
> 	text "";
> 
> 	command "insert into table events values(?,?,?);"
> 	arguments [id,date,text];
> 
> }
> 
> doInsert extends insert {
> 	db LAZY mysql;
> 	id "f324";
>   	date "2006-01-19;
> 	text "test";
> }
> 
> A component to have both deploy and undeploy commands would just be an
> extension, taking two
> SqlDeployment  extends Prim {
> 	db TBD;
> 	deploy extends SqlTransaction {  .. }
> 
> 	undeploy extends SqlTransaction {  .. }
> }
> 
> The only complication there is that I would not want the nested
> transactions to bind to anything other than the outer jdbc binding,
> which is going to be fiddly to make implicit.
> 
> The liveness would just be a way of defining the health of a database
if
> a select operation succeeds with the # of values returned in the
> expected range, possibly with a list of values that get checked too.
> That would appear to be the simplest way to do database health checks.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> -Steve
> 
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