Re: MIDP3 status?

Having to accommodate multiple interests from multiple stakeholders who
are donating their time to the expert groups while holding real world
jobs seems to be slowing down the process for defining more complex
specifications.=20

My basic argument is that proprietary technologies are progressing much
faster than Java ME, which makes them suitable for innovative
applications. Java ME these days looks mostly a platform for simple
games and enterprise (forms) applications. One of the main reasons for
this IMO is the overall slowness in releasing new specs.

Evidence: even Nokia, known for having a pretty standard implementation
of Java ME, is starting to adopt proprietary extensions and APIs as a
way to ensure requirements from developers and operators are met without
having to wait for new JSRs.

[]s
Daniel

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Subject: Re: MIDP3 status?

Daniel,

I read your blog post, but you don't say much about what specifically
about the JCP is the problem.  Would you mind elaborating?

Sean

On Aug 29, 2008, at 4:57 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote:

> Sorry for the blog spam, but my opinion is that this is a problem with

> JCP process itself, not with MIDP 3.0.
>
> http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/java/
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> []s
> Daniel
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> Yeah, MIDP 3 has been in the works too long. I think part of the=20
> problem is that it grew in requirements substantially over time and=20
> there were quite a few technical challenges. It defines much improved=20
> application management and concurrency, shared libraries, new security

> model aligned with CDC, the basics of a service framework,=20
> inter-midlet communication, and a bunch of other things. Still, it=20
> took too long IMO (release early, release often ...).
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> MIDP 2 is a part of MSA and there are a number of interesting MSA=20
> devices out now, SonyEricsson, Nokia S40 5th edition, and others.
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