Re: No Java Servlet Programming 3rd edition?

Jason Hunter wrote:

> David Orriss Jr wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Jason Hunter wrote the 2nd edition 4 years ago.  Since then we have
>> the 2.4
>> spec and I'm sure a bunch of other goodies.  Anyone know why Jason
>> hasn't
>> done a 3rd Ed yet?
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> Let me see if I can answer your question.  (If I can't, who can, eh?)
>
> It's something I've given thought to.  As of yet I haven't been
> convinced that it's a project I should undertake.  It's a ton of work.
> The 2nd Edition, for example, took nine months of effort.
>
> The way I see a 3rd Edition, I'd have two options...
>
> I could do a somewhat minor update to bring the book up to the latest
> spec levels (what will be Servlets 2.5 shortly), and not expand the
> focus very much, actually shrink the book probably.  That would
> definitely help people feel more comfortable buying the book than an
> edition last published in 2001, and it wouldn't require huge amounts of
> effort.
>
> Or I could do a major update that talked at some length about the
> technologies built on servlets and where servlets fit into the big
> picture these days.  Show servlets as controllers, etc.  The focus of
> Sun and open source groups writing server-side Java has moved higher up
> the stack than servlets.  So should the book move up the stack too?
> This approach would take a lot of time, and honestly I'd rather be
> writing about Ruby on Rails than JSF.  :)
>
> From a time management and enjoyment of life perspective, Approach One
> looks much more appealing.  But, David, are you wanting that or an
> Approach Two kind of book?
>
> -jh-
>
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Hey!

I have been with servlets since day one. You may recognize me for I
responded
many times years ago when servlets were been formulated and thereafter
answering
questions as a mentor on this list.  For the most part, servlets have
evolved into some
thing good.  I don't like the "higher up the stack" based on servlets,
i.e. STRUTS and
I probably won't like JSF.  I have written a 'better' STRUTS.  It is
much faster and
much easier to add capabilities. My apologies go McClaughlin, et al.
For one, I just
don't think XML is a good way to communicate with the Controller in the
MVC model.

If I have some time, maybe when I retire, I will write something on how
to write a good
Controller.  Most projects 'out here' don't need the enormous overhead
of STRUTS to
do an MVC. How many files do you have to create?  Five???  I really
don't know
because I just don't use and don't need STRUTS.  BTW guys, don't put MVC
experience
on your resumes just because you know how to use STRUTS.  I see that on so
many resumes.  Only the writers of STRUTS can claim MVC.

Jason, that being said, I don't care which Approach you take.  Just
write something so we can
have some fun and you can make another "million dollars" (quote by Dr.
Evil). :>)  I'll buy
your book.

Sans adieu,
Danny Rubis

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