RE: Terminology: Visit vs. Global vs. ???

First, there already is a RequestContext object.

Second, I really like engine, its one of the names that 'feels right'.  I 
really see all the processing of requests revolving around the engine.

I didn't want to call Visit "Session" because there are so many other sessions 
already, including HttpSession.

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> If you want to make the transition from struts easier, I think
> Visit -> Session would be a good move. I guess one of the 
> first things a Struts developer will do is try to figure out
> where to put the session information.
> 
> You could call it 'TapestrySession' if you wanted to distinguish
> it from 'HttpSession'. But IMO you could just use plain Session.
> I don't see any problem with reusing the name since it is 
> being used to describe the same thing - this is less confusing
> than using a new name to describe a well-known thing. 
> 
> How about changing 'Engine' to 'RequestContext' while the
> Pandora's box of name change is open?
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm Edgar [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 6:35 PM
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Tapestry-contrib] Terminology: Visit vs. Global vs. ???
> 
> 
> I think Visit is quite good. Using Session or SessionBean has too much 
> overlap with Servlets & EJB. I dont like Global, globals are evil :)
> 
> EncodedRequest or RequestEncoding are good for me, but I worry about the 
> impact this may have on existing code.
> 
> Regards Malcolm
> 
> >From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <[email protected]>
> >To: "Tapestry Contrib" <tapestry-contrib-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
> >Subject: [Tapestry-contrib] Terminology: Visit vs. Global vs. ???
> >Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 07:32:59 -0500
> >
> >So, I'm revisiting the documenation and I start wondering ... maybe we 
> >should clean up some of the terminology?
> >
> >Where did "Visit" come from?  It actually predates Tapestry; I was on a 
> >project and we were killing trees with useless diagrams.  I was busy 
> >teaching the other developers about servlets and EJBs and we were on a 
> >tight schedule.  Anyway, I was pushing the idea that we should collect 
> >information that would be used by many different parts of the application 
> >into a central object, so that we wouldn't constantly have to 
> >getAttribute() and downcast.  I prefer keeping things strongly typed.
> >
> >That started a discussion about what that central object would be called.  
> >Somehow, we came up with Visit (i.e., it stores the information about the 
> >user's visit).  The intent with the name was to make it obvious that it was
> 
> >short-term information, discarded when the user's visit to the application 
> >ended.
> >
> >Despite all that, I think calling it something else, say "Globals" (or 
> >what?  Suggestions welcome)  may simplify adoption.
> >
> >Also, I don't know why I came up with "Gesture".  Gesture in UI terms is an
> 
> >all-encompassing term for any kind of input the user can do: keypress, 
> >mouse clicks and drags, etc.  But that's not really how Gesture is used in 
> >Tapestry, since Gesture should  be used when recognizing input (something 
> >the engine services do).
> >
> >How about "EncodingOfURLAndRequestParameters"?  EncodedServiceRequest?  
> >EncodedRequest?  RequestEncoding?
> >
> >
> >----
> >Howard Lewis Ship
> >[email protected]
> >http://tapestry.sf.net
> >
> 
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