Re: WEB5250

Pete Helgren <[email protected]> Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:04:04 -0700
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I didn't add anything of substance at the time.  I spent some time 
working through function key issues and then got started on some code to 
help a user save their keyboard and display settings along with a 
graphical keyboard mapping application but none of it came together.  
Now with the idea of perhaps using JSON data rather than HTML to render 
on the browser, I have a bunch of ideas that fun to try but I don't have 
much time to follow them at the moment. I am way behind on a project 
that I need to get done in the next several months.

It was always my hope to get the web5250 finished.  So many devices can 
handle a browser application that it would be worth looking into further.

The code and demo have been at the http://www.web5250.com site for many 
years now.

Pete
 

kjpou wrote:
> Pete
>
> Did you ever do anymore on the web5250 than the last time I looked over 
> it?  I just saw the thread on the midrange list and the discussion looks 
> pretty cool.
>
> Pete Helgren wrote:
>   
>> Kenneth,
>>
>> I know Aaron well.  We have had several conversations and shared a beer 
>> or two at Common Conferences in the past.  Very good guy.  Smart.  Loves 
>> the i and is under 30 !
>>
>> Where I have seen tn5250j show up lately was as an eclipse plugin 
>> (something *I* was going to do if I ever got the time) and some 
>> discussion of a web version that would deliver JSON data to be 
>> consumed.  Sort of like what you had done, and I played with, with the 
>> web5250 stuff.  Except the consumer would be something like jQuery that 
>> would render/respond to the JSON/5250 stream.  It would actually be a 
>> cool little tool that would allow you to login and grab some IBM i data 
>> and interact with the i.  Plus it would be a relatively lightweight 5250 
>> browser application.   That discussion fell out of a discussion on 
>> midrange.com that was then picked up by a developer of ICEBreak who 
>> prototyped a JSON based 5250 browser using RPG to generate the JSON.
>>
>> 5250 is still alive and well on the i, despite the many reports of its 
>> demise!
>>
>> I may end up with some additional time in the summer since a contract 
>> that I have had with an i customer may not be renewed this year. If so, 
>> I might have time for more "fun" (but less profitable) work on tn5250j 
>> plus other things.
>>
>> Good yo see you back here.  It has be WAY too quiet. 
>>
>> Also, there were some posts from an Italian company that had some 
>> interest in enhancing tn5250j as well (last September/October).  Did 
>> they ever contact you?  What became of that?
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>> kjpou wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hey all
>>>
>>> Just wanted to introduce myself again.  Been AWOL for a while on the 
>>> server, PC and network side.  Lot's of neat projects that allowed me to 
>>> learn and expand.
>>>
>>> It looks like I am on an AS400 again.  This time writing webservices.  
>>> Cool package at http://www.rpg-xml.com
>>>
>>> Hey they also use the tn5250j emulator.  Talked to aaron bartel as 
>>> well.  Very nice guy.
>>>
>>> It looks like the project has grown way beyond me and taken on a life of 
>>> it's own.  Did a search on 'tn5250j' and came up with a lot of hits.
>>>
>>> Not sure how much time I will have to contribute but hopefully get some 
>>> activity up and going again.
>>>
>>> Downloaded the source and ran it on my Mac today but no AS400 to connect 
>>> to so it just sat there looking sad.  A little wave of nostalgia.
>>>
>>> I know there seems to be some problems with keyboard mapping which was a 
>>> PITA to begin with.  Does anybody know off the top of their heads if it 
>>> is just a recompile problem or some code needs to be put in?
>>>
>>> Any other problems that have had solutions while I was away?  Maybe we 
>>> can get them into the main code base.
>>>
>>> Anybody out there from the old days still around?
>>>
>>> I know Pete is out there.  So want to send a hello to him.
>>>
>>> I received no takers on the CVS to SVN so will give it a shot.
>>>
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I didn't add anything of substance at the time.&nbsp; I spent some time
working through function key issues and then got started on some code
to help a user save their keyboard and display settings along with a
graphical keyboard mapping application but none of it came together.&nbsp;
Now with the idea of perhaps using JSON data rather than HTML to render
on the browser, I have a bunch of ideas that fun to try but I don't
have much time to follow them at the moment. I am way behind on a
project that I need to get done in the next several months.<br>
<br>
It was always my hope to get the web5250 finished.&nbsp; So many devices can
handle a browser application that it would be worth looking into
further.<br>
<br>
The code and demo have been at the <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.web5250.com">http://www.web5250.com</a> site for many
years now.<br>
<br>
Pete<br>
&nbsp;<br>
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kjpou wrote:
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  <pre wrap="">Pete

Did you ever do anymore on the web5250 than the last time I looked over 
it?  I just saw the thread on the midrange list and the discussion looks 
pretty cool.

Pete Helgren wrote:
  </pre>
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    <pre wrap="">Kenneth,

I know Aaron well.  We have had several conversations and shared a beer 
or two at Common Conferences in the past.  Very good guy.  Smart.  Loves 
the i and is under 30 !

Where I have seen tn5250j show up lately was as an eclipse plugin 
(something *I* was going to do if I ever got the time) and some 
discussion of a web version that would deliver JSON data to be 
consumed.  Sort of like what you had done, and I played with, with the 
web5250 stuff.  Except the consumer would be something like jQuery that 
would render/respond to the JSON/5250 stream.  It would actually be a 
cool little tool that would allow you to login and grab some IBM i data 
and interact with the i.  Plus it would be a relatively lightweight 5250 
browser application.   That discussion fell out of a discussion on 
midrange.com that was then picked up by a developer of ICEBreak who 
prototyped a JSON based 5250 browser using RPG to generate the JSON.

5250 is still alive and well on the i, despite the many reports of its 
demise!

I may end up with some additional time in the summer since a contract 
that I have had with an i customer may not be renewed this year. If so, 
I might have time for more "fun" (but less profitable) work on tn5250j 
plus other things.

Good yo see you back here.  It has be WAY too quiet. 

Also, there were some posts from an Italian company that had some 
interest in enhancing tn5250j as well (last September/October).  Did 
they ever contact you?  What became of that?

Pete


kjpou wrote:
  
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      <pre wrap="">Hey all

Just wanted to introduce myself again.  Been AWOL for a while on the 
server, PC and network side.  Lot's of neat projects that allowed me to 
learn and expand.

It looks like I am on an AS400 again.  This time writing webservices.  
Cool package at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.rpg-xml.com">http://www.rpg-xml.com</a>

Hey they also use the tn5250j emulator.  Talked to aaron bartel as 
well.  Very nice guy.

It looks like the project has grown way beyond me and taken on a life of 
it's own.  Did a search on 'tn5250j' and came up with a lot of hits.

Not sure how much time I will have to contribute but hopefully get some 
activity up and going again.

Downloaded the source and ran it on my Mac today but no AS400 to connect 
to so it just sat there looking sad.  A little wave of nostalgia.

I know there seems to be some problems with keyboard mapping which was a 
PITA to begin with.  Does anybody know off the top of their heads if it 
is just a recompile problem or some code needs to be put in?

Any other problems that have had solutions while I was away?  Maybe we 
can get them into the main code base.

Anybody out there from the old days still around?

I know Pete is out there.  So want to send a hello to him.

I received no takers on the CVS to SVN so will give it a shot.

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