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Hello Pete,

As you explain LGPL, it seems to me that this is the way to go!





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Wim (and all).

Sorry not to weigh in until now. I have been very, very busy. Hoping 
things will slow down a bit over the next 2 or three weeks so I can do 
more on the tn5250j stuff.

I am not a licensing expert but as I understand the LGPL, a company can 
integrate the java classes/jars (library is what the LGPL language says) 
into their application and can charge for the the application as long as 
they don't "charge" for whatever they use from tn5250j.  It is a fine line 
in my opinion but they still need to indicate in their copyrights that 
some of the application is dependent upon tn5250j and licensed under LGPL 
(if we go that way).  So they can use the tn5250j as part of their 
solution.  They cannot use any source from the project in their own code 
or build a derived application from tn5250j and charge for it.  They can 
only use complete "components" that are identifiable as such from tn5250j 
(like the protocolBean).

What I don't know is that if they decide to enhance the tn5250j code are 
they obligated to contribute that code back to the project?  I *think* 
they are but I am not sure.  Where things get "fuzzy" is how to determine 
what "component" is being used.

No doubt some of the tn5250j code has found it's way into a commercial 
product or two already.  Not everybody plays by the rules.  But I think 
there is little risk in this approach.

In any case it speaks highly of what you guys have accomplished!

Pete


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Hello all, 

as I understood it, the people from Help/Systems were looking for a 5250 
protocol to embed into their product. Of course they will be charging 
their customers for this. As I interpret this, it's not a question of not 
OSS'ing the project anymore, but establishing a licensing policy on the 
project that allows them to integrate it. 




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Matt 

If you are on the list now here was a personal e-mail sent to me from one 
of the people.  I ony copied pasted a part of the e-mail as there was some 
personal info and do not want to get him/her in trouble.

Could you maybe give some answers to the questions.

I want to open this conversation up and let everyone decide.

Sorry to put you in this but all the others that I have done this too has 
backed down answering the questions in a public format.  You guys have 
been the most up front and honest so far which is why I have even 
considered it.


Regards

Kenneth

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Kenneth - - 

Wow!!  No kidding!!  Help/Systems!!  MOST INTERESTING (yes I am
shouting).

Since I am only a user, not a developer on this project, my 2 cents is
from a different perspective.  My concerns are the life of the product.
As you know and I have said repeatedly - tn5250j rocks!  Its great!

I want it to survive as an oss product.  I would understand if the
developers needed to generate a cash flow, as sad as that would make me.

Do you know what Help/Systems is up to?  Are they planning on putting
out the 5250 emulation and trying to charge for it?  Do they want to use
it as an oss product?



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