Re: [Jamvm-general] Re: [maemo-developers] J2ME on Nokia 770

Hi,
     As both VMs move into productization, these issues are vital and=20
cannot be avoided.

Open Source means business. Not just an armada of enthusiasts...

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Philippe Laporte
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[email protected] wrote:

>To Philippe,
>The SableVM Project has already been down this path(arguing about LGPL a=
nd
>GPL) before, so no need to fan the flames again. Doing so again does a
>great disservice to all GNU Classpath based VMs. Let the users choose
>which VM they want to use. It benefits GNU Classpath, and thus the VMs
>which depend on it ;)
>                                                      David Fu.
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>>On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:49:42PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
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>>>Michael Koch wrote:
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>>>>On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 01:28:10PM +0100, Philippe Laporte wrote:
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>>>>>- Sable has a large and active community
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>>>>In the last time the project seems to be very inactive except some
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>>>mails
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>>>>on the lists.
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>>>Not true. They just like to keep it low volume for some reason (which =
I
>>>admittedly don't like much). Check again.
>>>
>>>Anyways, even a community of 2 is better than the JamVM community...
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>>When speaking to them on IRC they always say they have no time for
>>sablevm currently ...
>>
>>I would call this inactive.
>>
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>>>>>- Sable is LGPL. GPL does not work for maemo. Read why at
>>>>>http://sablevm.org/wiki/License_FAQ.
>>>>>
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>>>>That is only the opinion of the SableVM people. Neither GNU classpath
>>>>poeple nor FSF considers this to be correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>So why do they still think so after such a long time? What would you
>>>say?
>>>
>>>What's the heuristic then?
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>>I dont know why but there is some dispute between sablevm and the rest
>>of the classpath community since a longer time. I dont really know why
>>and I would really like to get this solved. But I guess this will never
>>happen.
>>
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>>>If you link native to a GPL VM, then that code must also be GPL, no?
>>>That is an absolute requirement in the embedded world...
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>>That is true. But running java bytecode in with a GPL vm and loading JN=
I
>>libs during that doenst render all the java/native code you run with th=
e
>>VM to GPL.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Michael
>>--
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