Re: Caution, a traitor in our midst!

Marc,

do you have some time to work on this? could you develop a plan that we 
could use to implement some things which would allow WM to differentiate 
itself some from Velocity going forward?

-lane

Marc Palmer wrote:

> Lane Sharman wrote:
>
>> Hi Marc,
>>
>> this is an intriguing idea and does not seem like such a bad way to 
>> circumvent the politics of "we use JSP".
>>
>> Furthermore, it would allow you to refactor existing JSPs into a WM 
>> system over time. This would be really helpful.
>>
>> In short, JSPs are an utter left turn on the road to productive and 
>> extreme development. It boggles and bambles my mind where Sun has 
>> taken Java during the last 7 years.
>
>
> LOL yes indeed. In my JSP tutorial journey I found that, horrendously:
>
> 1. I prefer JSP 1.2 to JSP 2 with its horribly verbose XML syntax
>
> 2. I thought JavaServer Faces was going to be a great useful 
> technology but all I can see is a -lot- of overcomplicated crap. I 
> particularly like the way the examples I've seen show *server-side* 
> field validation being specified inside the JSP pages - how is that MVC?
>
> On the flip side, the more I read about Spring the more I like it. I 
> think we should aim for a WebMacro view implementation for Spring, it 
> already has them for FreeMaker and Velocity. If we can get it done, I 
> may tackle it soon if work doesn't get in the way, we should contrib 
> it to Spring so it goes out with their distros.
>
> Cheers
>
>




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