RE: Getting involved in werkflow

"David Wynter" <[email protected]> Fri, 23 May 2003 09:14:40 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.java.werkflow
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Hi Edgar,

I too have to do something like this, but must migrate from T2.1 first. S=
o I
have had a look to see where werkflow is most actively being used. That i=
s
as a part of Plexus, I think the brain child of Jason Van Zyl. Now the po=
int
of this is that Plexus uses Summit which is essentially a parallel to
Turbine. Have a look at
http://cvs.werken.com/viewcvs.cgi/plexus-components/?cvsroot=3Dplexus Not=
e
that werkflow is already a plexus component, also that all our familiar
friends (rundata, pull, resolver, parser, parameter, module) are all unde=
r
Summit. Also note that under
http://cvs.werken.com/viewcvs.cgi/fulcrum/?cvsroot=3Dplexus the db packag=
e is
actually a Avalon wrapper for Torque, because the Torque developers haven=
't
got there yet. This is very important to me as I have a lot of investment=
 in
using Torque. Plexus components are all Avalonised so have very clean
service lifecycle management, actually understandable now.

So my conclusion is that I should save myself a lot of work in the long r=
un
by switching directly to Plexus and I get 2 things, werkflow already
integrated and a service infrastructure I can actually understand, and
possibly a bunch of stuff I don't even know yet. Note also that it provid=
es
support for the much better Quartz scheduler and Axis amongst other thing=
s.

I suppose the big question is how 'ready' is it for consumption by mere
mortals ;-) I feel the risk is mitigated by the fact it is being used by
Zenplex in a production system (I think).

rgds,

David
  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Edgar Gonz=E1=
lez
  Sent: 22 May 2003 23:41
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: [werkflow-interest] Getting involved in werkflow


  Hello,

  I would like to get involved in the werkflow project (development or
docs), because I need to integrate a workflow engine in several web
applications.

  My web applications are based on Turbine 2.2 + Torque 3.0

  The cvs change log shows a recent lot of work, unless the last update f=
or
the project site was in 07 March 2003 and the most recent version availab=
le
in http://ibiblio.org/maven is 04-Feb-2003.

  - what is the project status?
  - which is the roadmap?


  Thanks

  Edgar

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size=3D2>So my=20
conclusion is that&nbsp;I should save myself a lot of work in the long =
run by=20
switching directly to Plexus and I get 2 things, werkflow already =
integrated and=20
a service infrastructure I can actually understand, and possibly a bunch =
of=20
stuff I don't even know yet. Note also that it provides support for the =
much=20
better Quartz scheduler and Axis amongst other things. =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D372544706-23052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

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size=3D2>I=20
suppose the big question is how 'ready' is it for consumption by mere =
mortals=20
;-) I feel the risk is mitigated by the fact it is being used by Zenplex =
in a=20
production system (I think).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D372544706-23052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D372544706-23052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>rgds,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D372544706-23052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>David</FONT></SPAN></DIV></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  [email protected]=20
  [mailto:[email protected]]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Edgar=20
  Gonz=E1lez<BR><B>Sent:</B> 22 May 2003 23:41<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email protected]<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
[werkflow-interest]=20
  Getting involved in werkflow<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to get involved in the =
werkflow=20
  project (development or docs), because <FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I =
need to=20
  integrate a workflow engine in&nbsp;several web applications.</FONT>=20
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My web applications&nbsp;are based on =
Turbine 2.2=20
  + Torque 3.0</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The cvs change log shows a recent lot =
of work,=20
  unless the last update for the project site was in <FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>07 March 2003 and the most recent =
version=20
  available in <A =
href=3D"http://ibiblio.org/maven">http://ibiblio.org/maven</A>=20
  is 04-Feb-2003.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>- what is the&nbsp;project status?</DIV>
  <DIV>-&nbsp;which is the roadmap?&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Edgar</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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