Re: [xwt-users] XWT through the looking glass

I agree that the XWT site needs to help XWT appear more stable. I also 
understand the reasoning given given for 'hiding' XWT right now given it 
is in major flux.

See below for more comments.

-Jeff

Charles Goodwin wrote:

> In an effort to present a more professional front for XWT, I'd like to
> see some updates in the way that the website is handled.
>
> Some of the changes I'd like to see:
>
> o  Automatic generation of the news
>
>    It would be ideal if we could somehow generate the news from the
>    announce mailing list.  Given the regularity of news - at best a
>    message every 2 weeks - this will hardly be a problem for people's
>    mailboxes.
>
>    An alternative might be to reverse the situation; to have updates
>    to the news page be reflected by an email to the announce list.
>
>    Regular updates really help a project.  There are hundreds, if not
>    thousands, who keep an eye on places like Freshmeat and activity
>    breeds activity.  We do ourselves no favours by being publicly
>    effectively silent for long periods at a time.
>
> o  Reduction of text on the front page
>
>    There is far too much.  I know how it can be condensed well and
>    will shortly (this week?) be committing an alternative version so
>    you can see if you agree.
>
>    News should be reduced basically to headlines.
>
>    XWT aspect descriptions should be reduced to bullet points and be
>    as concise as is possible whilst retaining meaning.
>
>    eg: "XWT applications are specified using a dialect of XML,
>    combined with ECMAscript (JavaScript), so existing HTML/JavaScript
>    developers can be productive immediately. No special tools are
>    required."
>
>    should be: "XWT is easier than HTML"

XWT is more powerful than HTML.

>
> o  To fix or not to fix the width of the page
>
>    I offer some paraphrased rumblings, "A web page should not fix the
>    width of it's content because those with larger screens would use
>    larger fonts, and those inbetween can resize their browser should
>    they experience difficulty."
>
>    The source was unavailable for comment, because I can't remember
>    where I heard it.  However, I do agree. :)
>
> o  Which layout do you prefer:
>        http://www.xwt.org
>     or http://www.xwt.org/test
>     or http://website-beta.mozilla.org

I prefer #2, but with the links on the left like it is now.

>
>    Can anybody offer up any other good examples of standards compliant
>    layout that doesn't use nested tables?
>
> o  Logos
>
>    Not much to say here because nobody has seen anything much yet.
>
>    I'm putting together 3 logos - 1 Adam's idea (an X where the ends
>    'scythe' around in a circle) and 2 mine (the stickman-like one
>    which bore a resemblence to somebody elses logo, and another is
>    a little difficult to explain in a sentence) which should give us
>    a good choice.
>
>    Any other logo suggestions or submissions are welcome.  Remember
>    that a logo must be simple enough that it is memorable and can be
>    easily reduced to b/w.
>
> o  Tutorials
>
>    I've been hard at work on some docs that are aimed at complete
>    newbies and build up to introducing most of the basic concepts of
>    XWT programming.
>
>    They are aimed at Nitrogen and will probably (depending on some
>    answers I get from Adam wrt to CVS) will be available through CVS
>    in their native XML format.  Since I intend to make a bit of money
>    through these, they'll be for personal reading only!  However,
>    once the exclusivity clause runs out (probably 30 days) with
>    whomever I publish them, they'll be available under a free license
>    of some form.
>
>    Again, comments on these (when you look at them) would be much
>    appreciated as I hope they become the de facto introductions for
>    learning XWT.
>
> o  Niwi - Nitrogen Widgets
>
>    A few holdups in Nitrogen have really hampered Niwi progress.  This
>    such because Nitrogen is useless to most XWT hopefuls without a
>    widget set.  Still, progress is being made although it's a case of
>    'watch this space'.
>
>    Adam and Brian have made brilliant progress on Nitrogen and it's a
>    far more powerful platform than Lithium.  It's been a long wait, but
>    it's been worth waiting for.
>
> Hmm I kinda went off at a tangent there.
>
> Just a heads up to let y'all know progress is being made on several 
> fronts.
>
> Comments welcome!
>
> - Charlie
>
>
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