[kde-artists] [Bug 283928] Default font. GNOME has Cantarell, Unity has the Ubuntu font family, so KDE has...
Alejandro Nova <[email protected]>
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https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283928 --- Comment #21 from Alejandro Nova <alejandronova gmail com> 2011-11-08 22:44:07 --- Nuno, some developments after this. After all, I am the mediator between that "external group" (composed of me, myself and I, but that may change soon) and KDE. I've received the following words from Łukasz. "Hello, > I've been lobbying about my idea, and it's starting to get traction. > However, we need funds to enable you to make a proper good design, and > the KDE community can and should have a chance to contribute money > towards a new UI font. That's great news, thanks! Yes, I agree -- we will be preparing a Kickstarter project. When Microsoft was preparing its own rebranding and the branding of Windows Vista, they decided to commission two variants of the Segoe family: * The "Segoe" family was to be used for general Microsoft branding, for print and web graphics, and for larger sizes. This family has a large number of weights, basic screen optimization (hinting), and originally had only the Latin extended character set. This is quite similar to the current Lato family (although we'd like to add more characters). * The "Segoe UI" family only comes with the 4 basic styles (Regular, Italic, Bold, Bold Italic), has high-quality hinting and a large character set, including Greek and Cyrillic, and quite a few "dingbat" characters — arrows, emoticons and other semi-graphical elements. Its spacing, proportions and the actual adjustment of weights are also specifically optimized for the screen. In essence, Segoe UI is more like a "low resolution" or "tiny size" variant of Segoe. We think it's a very logical model and we'd like to follow a similar path. So far, we've had some requests and ideas for a possible expansion of Lato. Here are some key items. They are in no particular order, they differ a lot when it comes to the actual amount of work required, and we're looking for input from users such as yourself to help prioritize and budget that: a) Basic "Latin extended" character set (for all major European languages using the Latin script) b) More extended Latin character set (for smaller languages) c) phonetic IPA characters d) Basic Cyrillic (for major languages using the Cyrillic script: Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian, Bulgarian) e) Extended Cyrillic (for smaller Cyrillic languages such as Kazakh) f) Monotonic Greek g) Polytonic Greek h) A set of narrow styles for all weights i) A set of wide styles for all weights j) Basic set of OpenType glyphs (for fractions, superscripts, subscripts and other figure styles) k) Small caps for all supported characters l) Basic dingbats (triangles, squares, circles, arrows and other geometric forms) m) Emoticons and other dingbats specifically useful for UI applications n) Additional dingbats o) Mathematical characters p) One monospaced style (Regular) for code display/programming q) Additional monospaced styles (Bold, Italic, Bold Italic) r) A serif companion for the family As you can see, this is a long list -- practically open-ended. So the questions that you (or someone at KDE) could answer, would be: 1. Would you like to see any design adjustments to the Lato family to make it more suitable for UI use? (In general, and also -- if you have any specific requirements). 2. Do you have any comments for the list of key items above? (Which key items would you like to have addressed, in what order and on which timeline). 3. Do you have any other items that you'd like to be added to the key items list above? 4. If we were to develop a specialized Lato UI family, what rough idea of a budget do you think the KDE community would be willing to donate? BTW: we just published an updated version 1.104 of Lato on http://www.latofonts.com/ today. Some rendering problems with Adobe applications and iOS have been resolved. This new version will soon also be deployed on Google Web Fonts. Many thanks for your support so far, and we'll be looking forward to your comments. Best regards, Łukasz" I would recommend to download Lato fonts, release 1.104. Lato authors used an autohinting library (and helped with its bugs, too) to improve Lato's hinting, so, it now looks more balanced and with better kerning at low resolutions. Also, about Ivan's complaints, they have added more internationalization. Łukasz plan is to fund this through Google Kickstarter, following a donation model, and to do a true "Lato UI" font, based on Lato, for the KDE interface. We need publicity to push this through all of our communities. Also, we need to get an estimated amount of money to ask for. I'm optimistic about this. Nuno, Ivan, what are your thoughts about this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.kde.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. ______________________________________________________________________________ [email protected] | https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-artists