Re: [kde-artists] App icons for non-SC apps in the oxygen iconset, useful?

Hi Nuno,

thanks for your reply.

Am Mittwoch, 9. Januar 2013, 13:08:39 schrieb Nuno Pinheiro:
> A Terça, 8 de Janeiro de 2013 21:01:02 Friedrich W. H. Kossebau escreveu:
> 
> what ever you guys fal its best,

Okay, so I am going to remove the icons
	oxygen-icons/*/apps/karbon.png
	oxygen-icons/*/apps/kexi.png
	oxygen-icons/*/apps/krita.png
from the oxygen iconset in the next days, both from trunk and the 4.10 branch.

> im tempeted to say that ith the icons are
> good enough you could ship them upstream to oxygen, i will probably aprove
> them..
> 
> btw can i see the new icons?

They are the ones you can see at the header of http://www.calligra.org/ , i.e. 
the ones which once were made for the apps in KOffice IIRC, but now e.g. 
without the small KOffice button at the left side of the top bar. So almost 
like the copies currently in the oxygen-iconset, cmp. e.g. the Karbon one:

http://websvn.kde.org/*checkout*/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-
icons/64x64/apps/karbon.png?revision=976866

https://projects.kde.org/projects/calligra/repository/revisions/master/entry/karbon/pics/app/hi64-
app-karbon.png

And in the last months it was even considered to come up with completely new 
app icons, which are easier to separate from each other and reflect more of 
the Calligra identity (whatever that is :) ).

So even if the now current Calliga app icons would move upstream to the 
oxygen-iconset as you proposed, they might be soon out-of-date again and then 
shadow any new ones. So best really is to keep the icons close with the 
Calligra source and have them provided by Calligra itself.

Cheers
Friedrich

> > Hi,
> > 
> > tl;dr okay to remove Calligra app icons from oxygen iconset?
> > 
> > (follow-ups only to [email protected], thanks)
> > 
> > For the upcoming 2.6 release Calligra has been giving its apps some new,
> > slightly refined app icons (hi*-app-*.*).
> > 
> > Problem now is, the oxygen iconset also contains icons for at least those
> > apps which had not been renamed in the last two years (karbon, kexi,
> > krita)... Cmp. e.g.
> > http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons/32x32/apps/
> > 
> > Which results in the fact that the new ones from Calligra will not be
> > used,
> > due to being shadowed by those in the oxygen-iconset. Not what is wanted
> > by
> > the Calligra devs, as you can imagine :)
> > 
> > Solution 1: simply update the icons in the oxygen iconset
> > 
> > That has the problem that Calligra is not part of the SC, and has as min.
> > KDE Platform dependency something old (even 4.3, well, known are at least
> > users that use the latest Calligra with KDE Platform 4.6). So no solution
> > with regards to them.
> > 
> > 
> > Solution 2:  install the app icons with a "calligra" prefix, e.g.
> > calligrakexi
> > 
> > Solves the shadowing by the icons in the oxygen-iconset, by now longer
> > having matching names. But that makes the icons in the oxygen-iconset
> > useless, as nothing will use them then.
> > 
> > Any better ideas?
> > 
> > To ensure consistent app icons the Calligra devs are currently considering
> > solution 2 for the upcoming 2.6 release. But as said, this also means that
> > the icons in the oxygen iconset are no longer needed and just bloat the
> > size of the iconset. So I would propose to remove these icons from
> > trunk/kdesupport/oxygen-icons:
> > 
> > oxygen-icons/48x48/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/48x48/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/48x48/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/128x128/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/128x128/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/128x128/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/64x64/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/64x64/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/64x64/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/22x22/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/22x22/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/32x32/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/32x32/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/32x32/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/16x16/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/16x16/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/16x16/apps/krita.png
> > oxygen-icons/256x256/apps/karbon.png
> > oxygen-icons/256x256/apps/kexi.png
> > oxygen-icons/256x256/apps/krita.png
> > 
> > Maybe even from the 4.10 branch.
> > 
> > Does it make sense to have icons for non-SC apps in the basic
> > oxygen-iconset at all? Looking at the sources I see that there are icons
> > for a few for them, so it seems for most apps it is no problem at all to
> > serve their own app icons, which will usually be in oxygen style anyway.
> > 
> > Thoughts, opinions?
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Friedrich
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