Re: a little something worth noting . . .

begin  Navindra Umanee's  quote:
| dep <[email protected]> wrote:
| > when did i ever make a racist comment against you due to your
| > indian origins? or for that matter, any comment at all against
| > you due to your origins, indian or otherwise?
|
| That's real slick of you to ignore my private mail and pretend you
| don't have a clue what I'm talking about.  Shows gumption.  Stuff
| real reporters are made of.

i ignored nothing. i explained, also in private mail, that the comment 
to which you objected was neither racist nor meant for you. you are 
the one who ignored it. in that you now choose to make a public 
allegation, i shall repeat, in full, that exchange here:

Re: something worth pondering
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 21:23:55 -0400
From: Navindra Umanee <[email protected]>
To: dep <[email protected]>
dep <[email protected]> wrote:
> now, doncha be drinking your own pee again, okay?

So this was supposed to be a racist comment?

I have to admit, that flew right over my head.  What am I to infer
from this?  You don't like people of Indian-origin?

Later,
Navin.

Re: something worth pondering
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 17:59:26 -0400
From: dep <[email protected]>
To: Navindra Umanee <[email protected]>
begin  Navindra Umanee's  quote:
| dep <[email protected]> wrote:
| > now, doncha be drinking your own pee again, okay?
|
| So this was supposed to be a racist comment?

no. i screwed up -- i'd been in a cranky discussion with uwe and 
didn't notice it was you and not him. if you remember, this was 
during the time the u.s. was begging african nations on the security 
council to support us, particularly cameroon, which was i believe 
president of the council. uwe is in namibia, and africa is of course 
a big place, but i was making a kind of snide reference to the other 
story in cameroon just then, which was this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2847557.stm

| I have to admit, that flew right over my head.  What am I to infer
| from this?  You don't like people of Indian-origin?

indeed, and if you will forgive a generalization based only on my 
personal experience, there are few peoples or cultures for whom i 
have more respect, or have found more consistent decency, 
intelligence, and industry, than people from india and of indian 
descent. to the extent i have racially motivated views in that 
regard, they are positive ones, and are somewhat higher than those i 
have of my own, caucasian, race.

apologize for the oversight of not noticing to whom i was replying.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.

[eoq]

and from this you allege that i have made racially derogatory remarks 
about you. bizarre.

| Ahh, so it's a job.  I suppose that the whereabouts of the origin
| of all this job money, funds for trolling on the kde-cafe list, is
| either "unknown" and/or "none of your goddammed business".  That's
| a great job where you get paid to go around accusing people of
| "cultural inferiority" and the like.

first, is someone charging you for your participation on this list? if 
so, you've been swindled. second, if andreas has taken kde private, 
then that is certainly something that ought to be widely known. from 
what i am told by those who unlike you are in a position to know, kde 
has not in fact become a private business.

on the other hand, my business is indeed a business, a private 
business incorporated as such. i do nort seek donations or 
memberships, and i do not propose that it represent anything other 
than itself. distinctions that i do not expect you to comprehend, but 
there they are, on the record, anyway.

third, it is amusing that you would be accusing anyone of trolling.
-- 
dep

http://www.linuxandmain.com -- outside the box, barely within
the envelope, and no animated paperclip anywhere.

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