Re: a little something worth noting . . .

begin  Roberto H. Alsina's  quote:

| > look at the archives of this list for the items posted by
| > andreas. andreas walks a free man.
|
| Yet you suggest that because of his opinion, and because he handled
| money, he is fit to be investigated by the government.

in my estimation, yes. there is no doubt that others who hold his 
opinion and have access to money have done a great deal of herm here, 
and there is strong evidence that more harm is planned.

| "yes, by all means express your opinion, if it isn't the party
| line, the IRS will meet you tomorrow".

who mentioned the irs? 

| Sadly that free speech is a
| right that is good to have as long as it is not exercised is a
| common view among some US citizens.

the first amendment, as the second, has limitations; indeed, those 
placed on the second are far more severe than any that have been 
proposed, let alone exercised, on the first.

| Yes, you have free speech. But
| speaking against the war is treason. Yes, you have free speech, but
| that will get you in trouble.

no one has been charged with treason, nor has anyone been troubled by 
the government for exercising an anti-war opinion. it is when there 
is reason to suspect that the speech will be followed by action that 
problems arise.

| Really, I think Franklin was onto something when he described the
| American eagle as "a bird of bad moral character".

your ornithological opinion has been noted and shall be given, i'm 
sure, its due.

| Were the rest of the world as free as the US claims itself to be,
| sure. Would the rest of the world as free as the US has asked it to
| be by its support of corrupt, immoral and dictatorial governments,
| it wouldn't be any freer, and if anything, less free.
|
| Were the rest of the world to start imprisoning their own citizens
| without trial, I am sure the US would call that a "problem with
| freedom". Yet when the US does it, we should all "care about the
| freedom in our own countries" right dep?

those from other nations are of course free ot remain there, whereupon 
there is no problem. it is when there is cause to suspect that they 
intend to do harm to the u.s., from within or without, as harm is 
defined by the u.s. and not by some bozo in a cave someplace, that 
the problem arises. 

| But of course, freedom requires a full stomach. IF the US of A
| would act its word of "free trade", instead of being a
| protectionist behemoth, the poorer (and not by coincidence) less
| free parts of the world would be richer, and (not by accident)
| freer.

i presume you are talking about the steel tariffs. if so, i agree 
wityh you. if, however, you are talking about the canadian softwood 
issue, canada is the country that has engaged in a trade war in which 
american imports have been harmed. still, we would be more than happy 
to provide all the viagra they can use in resolving their softwood 
issue.
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