Re: China and DeLay

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On Wednesday 04 June 2003 11:22, Andreas Pour wrote:
> I'm not so sure about how horrible China is.  Not a place I'd like to live,
> to be sure - I'd likely end up in one of their "reeducation" camps.  But
> the fact is, I have known less outspoken people who have lived and visited
> there, and the general criticism is not that the government is terrible but
> rather that the country is poor.  And the government seems to be doing
> quite well in ameliorating that problem.  And unlike the Israeli bulldozer,
> the Chinese tank stopped when the protestor stepped in front.

well, i wouldn't compare Israel and China. both have their own particular 
problems.

but it isn't just tanks running over people in China. it's things like 
suppression of the free press, dissapearings, etc...

> In terms of relations to Taiwan, if one looks at Hong Kong as the model,
> China seems to be doing a magnificent job at keeping the pre-return
> institutions in place (but I have not read on this recently so please
> correct me if I am wrong).

one example is one of the newspapers that used to be based out of Hong Kong 
that was decidedly pro-democracy and willing to openly discuss governmental 
and institutional issues. unfortunately, i forget the name of the paper, as i 
read about it some years ago. but the Chinese government burned down offices, 
had people involved in the paper killed, etc... yes, China could be doing a 
LOT worse if it tried; they aren't a Stalinesque communist state, but they 
are often very close.

another example is their treatment of religious orders and their leaders such 
as in Tibet and the Dali Lama.

> But that's not the point.  The point is, if you look at Delay's voting
> record he has voted for China, most importantly in voting to maintain Most
> Favored Nation status for China.

obviously the boy is a bit confused. and I agree with you that concept isn't 
exactly surprising given that he comes out of the American ruling class, 
which is currently an emberassment to the Free world.

> republic again constituted, by, of and for the people, instead of by and
> for the global elite. Or so I keep hoping (perhaps I am a sentimental
> optimist . . . .)

the world needs sentimental optimists, especially the sort willing to speak 
and act out. only by vigorously defending and standing up for Truth and 
Freedom can we achieve and maintain those same things. despots will rise from 
time to time who try and subvert our societies, and they need to be put down.

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