Re: No WMDs? Fabulous, but Still Beside the Point

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On Tuesday June 10, 2003 03:06, Andreas Pour wrote:
> http://www.antiwar.com/barganier/ba060903.html
>
> Messrs. Kaper, Stevens, Butler, please read this, so you can stop making
> the same untrue arguments about anti-war people over and over again :-)
> (you of course may still have arguments, but at least, they will be
> better informed ones).

You just had to Frenchify my bit, didn't you?

Reading this "anti-war news" site, now, there's absolutely nothing new 
here.

"(Repetition works wonders.)"

Yes it does, like when you repeat that Bush is a criminal, and you repeat 
that you claim to oppose Hussein.

"The US isn't bombing Russia, China, or North Korea."

That's right.  It's the job of our Armed Forces to *protect* Americans.  
Attempting to forcibly disarm Russia or China would surely lead to nuclear 
retaliation on US cities, and there's the possibility that North Korea 
could do the same with some of their untested equipment.

Saddam Hussein, on the other hand, didn't have nukes yet and didn't have 
missiles that could reach the US.

Never even mind that this argument isn't even really an argument.  
Inconsistency doesn't matter.  Right and wrong matter.  Whether it's right 
or wrong to forcibly disarm North Korea does not change whether it was 
right to forcibly disarm Iraq"

"As for Israel, the nation most threatened by Iraq, they have nukes and, as 
they demonstrated in 1981, a superior military they aren't afraid to use.

The neocons may regard all casualties as minor debits on their National 
Greatness bankcard, but the families, countrymen, and coreligionists of 
the fallen see things differently."

Ah yes, those evil Neocons.  They and their "dual loyalties," to quote Pat 
Buchanan.  They're behind everything, aren't they?

"Put me virtually anywhere in the United States, give me a car full of gas 
and a Rand McNally roadmap, and I will find weapons of mass destruction 
(or what the U.S. would count as such in Iraq) before the tank needs 
refilling."

The author is either incredibly stupid, just plain dishonest, or a 
combination of the two.  Any reasonable person would take into account 
that the Baathists spent the last decade hiding their programs.

"Instead of lending undue significance to weapons possession, we must 
reiterate our original arguments against the war: it didn't serve our 
national interests, it was immoral, and it could have awful 
repercussions."

And here we get to the end, after the anti-Jew^Wanti-Neocon paranoia, 
various fallacies, with a dash of attacks on the President and other 
government officials thrown in, we get to what the point is allegedly 
about.  A point just asserted in the end with nothing to back it up.

Why do I even bother?  Because repetition does work.  And unless someone 
counters that repetition and exposes it for how flimsy it is, it might 
sway people.

- -- 
Neil Stevens - [email protected]
"The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep's throat, for which the
sheep thanks the shepherd as a liberator, while the wolf denounces him
for the same act as the destroyer of liberty." -- Abraham Lincoln
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