Evangelical Christianity Wrongly Maligned (was Re: Chavez Likes Euro?)

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> Most Zionists in the US are of the so-called "Evangelical Christian"
> variety - by most accounts, there are some 45 million of these believers. 
> But do you know what their ultimate belief is?  That the Jews - at first
> 144,000, then more - will convert to Christianity, and that God will
> annihilate those who do not.

  It's much more complex than that, I would suggest you study the subject if 
you wish to attack Evangelicalism, which certainly isn't Zionist exclusively 
or even at the core. 

  Annihilation of non-Messianic Jews is definately not part of the theology of 
the Evangelical movement. Those Evangelicals that do subscribe to 
dispensational theology, like me, have a very different view than the one you 
portray. Those that don't subscribe to dispensational theology often don't 
even believe in a rapture.

> In particular, the Evangelicals tend to believe (and I know Tim will
> correct me b/c there are nuances), that upon the creation of the "Greater
> Israel" 

  That's a UBL term. I think what you are calling "Greater Israel" is the New 
Jerusalem, which will be right where the old Jerusalem is, not some larger 
area. 

> (this creation itself requiring some active racism against Arabs)

  No, although dispensationalists generally believe by the end of the end 
times there will be two sides: those that have taken the mark of the beast 
(the Antichrist) and those that have refused to and become loyal to 
Christianity (Tribulation Saints). *Become* loyal as the most popular theory 
places the rapture before any of this happens. 

  Israel will sign a 7-year pact with the Antichrist's government, but will be 
betrayed at the midway point and forced to take the sign of the beast or face 
execution -- just like everyone else.  

> the Jews must convert to Christianity or be annihilated in a nuclear
> holocaust.  In this "phrophesized" fairy tale, 

  I resent that.

> 144,000 Jews, 12,000 from
> each of the tribes[1], will first convert to Christianity and then commence
> proselytizing others.  The Jews who fail to convert will be killed in the
> holocaust the Evangelicas so fervently pray for, in order that they
> themselves may attain "rapture"; in any event the whole affair spells the
> end of Judaism.

You seem to have gotten a lot of this off of "Christian Identity" or similar 
organizations literature. You should check your sources better, that 
movement, the ones that talk about anniliation of Jews in particular are 
generally very very racist and just like the Klan cloaked in religion.

> particular I am opposed in principle to Armageddon and all those who would
> work to bring it about.

  No one is going to want Armageddon to happen. And those who face it will not 
be of any particular race. It will simply be the division of good and evil 
fighting no matter what race.


> [1] Of the original tribes, only the descendants of several of them - Judah
> and Benjamin and, in part, Levi, one of the 10 "lost tribes" - are known to
> reside in Israel; other tribes, ironically, may be the ancestors of
> modern-day Palestinians.
 
  Probably. Historically that would appear to be the way it is. The Samaritans 
where a mixed culture of the 10 "lost tribes" and their conquerors. The Jews 
broke ties with the new people because they introduced false worship and such 
into ancient Israelite religion. 

  This is the interesting significance of the "Good Samaritan" parable that is 
often lost. 

  -Tim

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