Re: put andreas on suicide watch

On Monday 15 December 2003 15:29, dep wrote:
>
> i suspect that yes, they probably will.

Do you think it's possible that they could have been hidden so well even 
though Iraq was under close scrutiny ?

> there is no question that they
> existed, because they were used in a campaign of genocide against the
> kurds and iranians. this is a matter of fact.

Indeed, but that was 10 years ago, and chemical weapons can't be stored for 
such a long time. And weren't these weapons sold to Irak, rather than built 
by them ?

> what the president said was that we needed to take down saddam before he
> bacame an imminent threat -- the time to deal with the pistol is before
> it is cocked and held to your head.

Like described here, then ?
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

While on this web site, have you read this :
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

> at some point -- and i daresay that point was achieved september 11,
> 2001 -- popularity becomes a secondary concern, in my estimation.

Then how do you avoid escalation ? More people hate you, commit terrorist 
acts, you retaliate, etc...

> as to
> people turning to terrorism, that is a more complicated issue, because
> it has become the way that anyone who wants anything now achieves it.

Do you think blowing oneself up or killing large amounts of people for a cause 
comes naturally to most people ? Not that it would take either a deranged 
mind (like the unabomber) or a craving for revenge ?

> this is
> irrespective of the issue itself, the means rather than the end. [...]
> employing terrorism. so i fear we're stuck with terrorism.

While it's obvious you can't make everyone happy, don't you think that 
avoiding to create the circumstances in which people resort to violent means 
is a better long-term course of action ?

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/14/wterr14.xml
>&sSheet=/portal/2003/12/14/ixportaltop.html
>
> this is not to say that i'm ready to swear that the story is true, but
> coughlin is a good reporter and pretty reliable, and if it turns out
> that the story is accurate it will eliminate a lot of objections people
> have had to our presence in iraq.

The story also seem to mention uranium shipments to Niger which I believe were 
debunked. And didn't the US government acknowledged that there was no direct 
link between Hussein and Al Quaeda ?

-- 
				Guillaume
				http://www.telegraph-road.org

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