Re: Another Censorship . . . .

James Richard Tyrer <[email protected]> Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:26:45 -0700
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.cafe
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Andreas Pour wrote:

> Are the "enlightened conservatives" also the ones who support wars of conquest,
> and who want to start World War III a/g the Muslims, to make some more
> "Lebensraum" for the Jewish state?

WW III was the cold war, the conservatives won it.  I don't see WW IV starting with the 
Muslims.  What I do see is that as long as the so-called Palestinians keep deliberately 
killing women, children and non-combatants that there will be no peace.

> Anyway you are talking about a relatively old concept of race; the modern
> definition(s) are far different (and the meanings really cannot be separated
> from historical, cultural and religious values).
> 
But not an old concept of racism.
> 
>>But, even if you cling to
>>the dubious concept of 'race', Semites are not a race.  Arabs are not a race.  They are
>>ethnic groups which are part of the Caucasian race.
> 
> 
> Just looking at a moderately old copy of Webster's New Universal Unabridged
> Dictionary (Deluxe 2nd Ed. 1983) we have the one you refer to (though it is 3
> main groups) and then:
> 
>   (2) a population that differs from others in the relative frequency of some
> gene or genes; a modern scientific usage.

Definition #2 is not usually applied to Humans and if it is, it is not in this context.

>   (3) any geographical, national, or tribal ethnic grouping.
> [NOTE:  this third def'n is a very common usage and since it equates race with
> ethnic groups, 

Yes, it is a common and incorrect 'catch all' when one of the other terms should be used.

> it speaks a/g your efforts to distinguish on that basis - the
> reason I mention this is the common usage of "racist" and "racism" refers to
> this def'n rather than the three group definition.]
>   [ ... ]
>   (6) a group of people having a common parentage; the descendants collectively
> of a common ancestry; family; clan.
>   [ ... ]

Perhaps what you actually need to do is look up 'racism' since it appears that racism can 
exist even if its target isn't actually a race.

--
JRT


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