dumb question

John Kinsella <[email protected]> Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:14:15 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.darwin
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to the field here.  Is Konquorer available 
in a .dmg?  I'd like to work with it, but don't see it anywhere.  I 
think I've installed all the .dmg you have posted, so maybe I need to 
get it from somewhere else?
On Jan 15, 2004, at 6:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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>    7. New binaries. questions (didz)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:12:25 -0500
> From: Kevin Walzer <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] More info--Scribus building on OS X
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: KDE-Darwin <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> I've made further progress. For some reason, the standard ./configure
> and make commands do not build the files properly on OS X. What has
> worked this far--at least in getting further in the build--is to
> configure the Makefile to conform to OS X's Xcode IDE, and run the
> build from Xcode.  QT provides parameters to do this (qmake -project,
> then qmake -spec macx-pbuilder scribus.pro). This is the only way I am
> able to generate .moc files, although what happens then is that instead
> of creating foo.moc, a file named moc_foo.cpp is generated. Since the
> source files all contain #include foo.cpp statements, that breaks the
> build once it gets to a name that conflicts. I've confirmed this by
> changing a few of the include statements to #include moc_foo.cpp.
>
> Looks like I'll have to go through and change this in every file,
> unless someone can tell me a way to configure QT to generate the
> correct moc file names. I don't know if this will solve every problem,
> but it's a start.
> ---
>
> Kevin Walzer, Ph.D.
> Editor
> WordTech Communications -- A New Paradigm of Poetry
> http://www.wordtechcommunications.com
> http://www.smallbizmac.com
> http://www.kevin-walzer.com
> mailto:[email protected]
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 17:27:27 -0500
> From: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Scribus] More info--Scribus building on OS
> 	X
> To: Kevin Walzer <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], KDE-Darwin
> 	<[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>> I've made further progress. For some reason, the standard ./configure
>> and make commands do not build the files properly on OS X. What has
>> worked this far--at least in getting further in the build--is to
>> configure the Makefile to conform to OS X's Xcode IDE, and run the 
>> build
>> from Xcode.  QT provides parameters to do this (qmake -project, then
>> qmake -spec macx-pbuilder scribus.pro). This is the only way I am able
>> to generate .moc files, although what happens then is that instead of
>> creating foo.moc, a file named moc_foo.cpp is generated. Since the
>> source files all contain #include foo.cpp statements, that breaks the
>> build once it gets to a name that conflicts. I've confirmed this by
>> changing a few of the include statements to #include moc_foo.cpp.
>
> If I recall correctly, scribus uses the KDE build system, in which case
> you can copy the admin/ dir from any of our (the KDE-Darwin team)
> patched KDE trees over scribus's admin, and run "make -f
> admin/Makefile.common cvs" and then the normal configure, make, make
> install.
>
> Without the updated admin/ dir, KDE stuff in general won't build out of
> the box with Qt/Mac.
>
> -- 
> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
> A computer scientist is someone who, when told to 'Go to Hell', sees
> the 'go to', rather than the destination, as harmful.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 20:40:56 -0500
> From: Kevin Walzer <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Scribus] More info--Scribus building on OS
> 	X
> To: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected], KDE-Darwin
> 	<[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
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> I copied the latest snapshot of arts from KDE cvs, ran the patch, did
> the makefile-cvs, and then copied the admin directory to my Scribus
> directory.
>
> I then get this:
>
> checking for strip... strip
> admin/ltconfig: admin/ltconfig: No such file or directory
> configure: error: libtool configure failed
> [Kevin-Walzers-Computer:~/Desktop/scribus-1.1.4] kevinwal%
>
> I've run into this problem before, which is why I started trying to
> build using qmake directly. Any ideas?
>
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:
>
>> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>>
>>> I've made further progress. For some reason, the standard ./configure
>>> and make commands do not build the files properly on OS X. What has
>>> worked this far--at least in getting further in the build--is to
>>> configure the Makefile to conform to OS X's Xcode IDE, and run the
>>> build from Xcode.  QT provides parameters to do this (qmake -project,
>>> then qmake -spec macx-pbuilder scribus.pro). This is the only way I
>>> am able to generate .moc files, although what happens then is that
>>> instead of creating foo.moc, a file named moc_foo.cpp is generated.
>>> Since the source files all contain #include foo.cpp statements, that
>>> breaks the build once it gets to a name that conflicts. I've
>>> confirmed this by changing a few of the include statements to
>>> #include moc_foo.cpp.
>>
>> If I recall correctly, scribus uses the KDE build system, in which
>> case you can copy the admin/ dir from any of our (the KDE-Darwin team)
>> patched KDE trees over scribus's admin, and run "make -f
>> admin/Makefile.common cvs" and then the normal configure, make, make
>> install.
>>
>> Without the updated admin/ dir, KDE stuff in general won't build out
>> of the box with Qt/Mac.
>>
>> -- 
>> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
>> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
>> A computer scientist is someone who, when told to 'Go to Hell', sees
>> the 'go to', rather than the destination, as harmful.
>>
>>
>>
> ---
>
> Kevin Walzer, Ph.D.
> Editor
> WordTech Communications -- A New Paradigm of Poetry
> http://www.wordtechcommunications.com
> http://www.smallbizmac.com
> http://www.kevin-walzer.com
> mailto:[email protected]
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:12:37 -0600
> From: Jon S <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: [Scribus] More info--Scribus building on
> 	OS X
> To: Kevin Walzer <[email protected]>
> Cc: KDE-Darwin <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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> Unfortunately several of us have had this.  I have not found a
> workaround. That error combined with my AM_PROG_LIBTOOL has stopped
> development until I have a day to look at it.
>
> If you come across anything, I am all ears..
>
> - -pH1nk
>
>
> On Jan 12, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
>
>> I copied the latest snapshot of arts from KDE cvs, ran the patch, did
>> the makefile-cvs, and then copied the admin directory to my Scribus
>> directory.
>>
>> I then get this:
>>
>> checking for strip... strip
>> admin/ltconfig: admin/ltconfig: No such file or directory
>> configure: error: libtool configure failed
>> [Kevin-Walzers-Computer:~/Desktop/scribus-1.1.4] kevinwal%
>>
>> I've run into this problem before, which is why I started trying to
>> build using qmake directly. Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 12, 2004, at 5:27 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote:
>>
>>> Kevin Walzer wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've made further progress. For some reason, the standard
>>>> ./configure and make commands do not build the files properly on OS
>>>> X. What has worked this far--at least in getting further in the
>>>> build--is to configure the Makefile to conform to OS X's Xcode IDE,
>>>> and run the build from Xcode.  QT provides parameters to do this
>>>> (qmake -project, then qmake -spec macx-pbuilder scribus.pro). This
>>>> is the only way I am able to generate .moc files, although what
>>>> happens then is that instead of creating foo.moc, a file named
>>>> moc_foo.cpp is generated. Since the source files all contain
>>>> #include foo.cpp statements, that breaks the build once it gets to a
>>>> name that conflicts. I've confirmed this by changing a few of the
>>>> include statements to #include moc_foo.cpp.
>>>
>>> If I recall correctly, scribus uses the KDE build system, in which
>>> case you can copy the admin/ dir from any of our (the KDE-Darwin
>>> team) patched KDE trees over scribus's admin, and run "make -f
>>> admin/Makefile.common cvs" and then the normal configure, make, make
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Without the updated admin/ dir, KDE stuff in general won't build out
>>> of the box with Qt/Mac.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
>>> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
>>> A computer scientist is someone who, when told to 'Go to Hell', sees
>>> the 'go to', rather than the destination, as harmful.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> ---
>>
>> Kevin Walzer, Ph.D.
>> Editor
>> WordTech Communications -- A New Paradigm of Poetry
>> http://www.wordtechcommunications.com
>> http://www.smallbizmac.com
>> http://www.kevin-walzer.com
>> mailto:[email protected]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 10:13:46 -0500
> From: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] FYI: new binaries, new wiki
> To: KDE-Darwin <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> For those that didn't notice, I've set up a new wiki since the metapkg
> wiki is a bit anemic.  You can get to it at:
>
>    http://ranger.befunk.com/phpwiki/
>
> Also, new binaries are up on the binaries page, although there is
> currently a bug in them where you need to manually run:
>
>    sudo /opt/kde/bin/kbuildsycoca --global
>
> ...when you finish installing packages.  The next release will do this
> automatically.
>
> -- 
> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
> if debian is a religion, gnu/darwin is a cult
>               -- name witheld to protect the guilty
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:34:21 -0600
> From: Augie Fackler <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KDE-Darwin] FYI: new binaries, new wiki
> To: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> I volunteer to test binaries on Jaguar, since I'm too busy for much
> else....
>
> On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 09:13  AM, Benjamin Reed wrote:
>
>> For those that didn't notice, I've set up a new wiki since the metapkg
>> wiki is a bit anemic.  You can get to it at:
>>
>>   http://ranger.befunk.com/phpwiki/
>>
>> Also, new binaries are up on the binaries page, although there is
>> currently a bug in them where you need to manually run:
>>
>>   sudo /opt/kde/bin/kbuildsycoca --global
>>
>> ...when you finish installing packages.  The next release will do this
>> automatically.
>>
>
> AF
> --------
> main (){for(;;)fork();} /*this is sooooo evil*/
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:46:31 +0000
> From: didz <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] New binaries. questions
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> 	<[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> Hi, loaded up the latest binaries and can now web browse with
> konqueror. Can anyone tell me if they have it working in ftp or file
> manager mode. In file manager, the files appear but if i click or
> double click, a folder etc nothing happens. Anyone have it working
>
> all the best
> didz
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:24:20 -0500
> From: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KDE-Darwin] New binaries. questions
> To: didz <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> didz wrote:
>> Hi, loaded up the latest binaries and can now web browse with 
>> konqueror.
>> Can anyone tell me if they have it working in ftp or file manager 
>> mode.
>> In file manager, the files appear but if i click or double click, a
>> folder etc nothing happens. Anyone have it working
>
> Mouse input in konq (and a number of other places) is still screwy.  No
> fix yet.
>
> -- 
> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
> We put a lot of thought into our defaults.  We like them.  If we
> didn't, we would have made something else be the default.  So keep
> your cotton-pickin' hands off our defaults.  Don't touch.  Consider
> them mandatory.  "Mandatory defaults" has a nice ring to it.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:12:53 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Alain Borel <[email protected]>
> Subject: [KDE-Darwin] Re: FYI: new binaries, new wiki
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Benjamin Reed <ranger <at> befunk.com> writes:
>
>>
>> For those that didn't notice, I've set up a new wiki since the metapkg
>> wiki is a bit anemic.  You can get to it at:
>>
>>    http://ranger.befunk.com/phpwiki/
>>
>> Also, new binaries are up on the binaries page, although there is
>> currently a bug in them where you need to manually run:
>>
>>    sudo /opt/kde/bin/kbuildsycoca --global
>>
>> ...when you finish installing packages.  The next release will do this
>> automatically.
>
> Very impressive work! Most of what I tried (several games, kate, 
> konqueror)
> starts and generally works... however, I can't see any pixmap. No 
> button in
> toolbars, no file icons in Konqueror, etc. As you can see in the 
> following log,
> there's a problem with QImage objects:
>
> % /Applications/KDE/Kate.app/Contents/MacOS/kate
> kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( KTextEditor/Plugin, )
> Creating link /Users/aborel/.kde/cache-TVT-CaTV-dhcp-46-75.urbanet.ch.
> Created link from 
> "/Users/aborel/.kde/cache-TVT-CaTV-dhcp-46-75.urbanet.ch"
>  to "/var/tmp/kdecache-aborel"
> kio (KSycoca): Trying to open
>  ksycoca from /private/var/tmp/kdecache-aborel/ksycoca
> kio (KSycoca): Trying to open global ksycoca from
>  /opt/kde/share/services/ksycoca
> kio (KTrader): Returning 3 offers
> kio (KDirWatch): Available methods: Stat
> kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( Kate/ProjectPlugin, )
> kio (KTrader): Returning 1 offers
> kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( Kate/Plugin, )
> kio (KTrader): Returning 1 offers
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
> kate: : KDockWidget::setHeader
> kate: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true)
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
> kate: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(false)
> kmdi: switch(mdiMode): IDEAlMode
> kmdi: SWITCHING TO IDEAL
> kate: : KDockWidget::setHeader
> kate: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true)
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
> (..... and so on and so forth)
>
> Any suggestions? My current OS version is 10.2.8, in case it matters.
> Alain Borel (Switzerland)
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:29:41 -0500
> From: Benjamin Reed <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [KDE-Darwin] Re: FYI: new binaries, new wiki
> To: Alain Borel <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> Alain Borel wrote:
>
>> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
>> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
>> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
>> kate: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(false)
>> kmdi: switch(mdiMode): IDEAlMode
>> kmdi: SWITCHING TO IDEAL
>> kate: : KDockWidget::setHeader
>> kate: KDockWidgetHeader::showUndockButton(true)
>> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
>> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
>> kernel/qpixmap_mac.cpp: 851 -- Something went very wrong!! -108
>> QImage::smoothScale: Image is a null image
>> QImage::convertDepth: Image is a null image
>> (..... and so on and so forth)
>>
>> Any suggestions? My current OS version is 10.2.8, in case it matters.
>> Alain Borel (Switzerland)
>
> This sounds like Qt isn't finding it's plugins.  Did you install the
> latest Qt package?  Also, do you have other Qt's lying around?  You
> might need to delete your ~/.qt, it could be caching pointers to other
> plugin directories.
>
> -- 
> Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick -- http://ranger.befunk.com/
> gpg: 6401 D02A A35F 55E9 D7DD  71C5 52EF A366 D3F6 65FE
> We put a lot of thought into our defaults.  We like them.  If we
> didn't, we would have made something else be the default.  So keep
> your cotton-pickin' hands off our defaults.  Don't touch.  Consider
> them mandatory.  "Mandatory defaults" has a nice ring to it.
>
>
>
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>
John Kinsella
Academic Technology Consultant
IRT-CS
University of St. Thomas
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