Re: Again on KControl

Simon Edwards <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.usability,gmane.comp.kde.debian
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 10:35 pm, Frans Englich wrote:
> Why KAdmin & the Usability aspect
> ---------------------------------
> KControl is not designed for housing administration functionality - it is 
> designed for displaying small units of _configuration_ options. 
> Administration functionality, such as managing big numbers of users, setting 
> up router tables, mail servers etc. _requires_ widgets and functionality 
> KControl doesn't have, nor can be extended to have. For example toolbars and 
> menus.

> [...]

> What do the kde-debian think in this matter? Would an KAdmin duplicate their 
> work? Is it an good idea? (CCing)

I'm working on admin tools in the kde-debian project. 
( http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidance/ ) They operate as KC modules.

My philosophy reguarding KC is that it is for configuring the OS and the 
operating environment (i.e. the desktop environment). Basically the layer(s) 
of software that sits below the application level. As someone else said once, 
"in KC you can configure things that don't have a Settings menu". Which I 
think is a good guideline.

As for admin stuff and KAdmin, spawning another kcontrol like program doesn't 
make much sense in a desktop environment where the person using the computer 
is often the admin person too. Better to keep all config stuff in the same 
place.

Big things that need menus and toolbars etc like administrating mail servers 
and web servers don't really belong in KC. They are applications. You would 
install a machine for the purpose of being a web server, but you wouldn't 
install a machine just so that you can configure it's icon scheme. It is a 
different class of functionality to that in KC. For those kinds of "primary" 
functions you are probably better off just making a normal full-blown KDE 
application to configure it.

just my opinion at this point in time.

cheers,

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