Re: KDE/ QT/ Plasma accessibility contributions

Howdy Mario,

Thanks for your very fast response.

> E.g. if you find stuff buggy or missing in KDE's Plasma just create the
> patches and add them to Phabricator and add Plasma people as reviewers.
with Phabricator you mean this right?:
https://phabricator.kde.org

then my issues starting more early then i thought XD lool, how to  
register there? i just find a login button but none for register? sry  
its my first time using Phabricator. I mostly use github/ gitlab so far.
i was also looking at:
https://identity.kde.org/

Or am I able to submit stuff without beeing registered? *little confused*

Ah yea just found your Randa efforts while google around. Hacking in  
the alps eat fruits and lasagne and drink beer sounds funny :).
did you organize this by yourself? or for an company/organisation?
> (although I never really managed to bring in a11y users to test the  
> improvements)
maybe we will join next time :) if we are allowed to. My girlfrind is  
a very successfull tester. she manage to break everything XD.
If you wanna have some more testers, some of my frinds and me are  
available on IRC:
network: irc.linux-a11y.org
room: #a11y
they cannot await my results since i speak in best words of KDE.

> PS: And for the case I can help you on IRC just ping me. I'm "unormal" there.
on #kde-accessibility  right?
Sure thing :), ill join and hang around with you after work. i  
currently stay at work (develop a product configurator with price  
calculation and CAD drawing engine for our ERP system - funny stuff  
too).

I found that:
https://phabricator.kde.org/project/view/249/
what is mostly stuff i also already observed. maybe i just start pick  
a simple task and try to implement it.
maybe starting improving kicker as an central point for users. As I  
identified several issues there. its very unresponsive for A11y when i  
open it first time and bookmarks are not keyboard navigateable. A  
section change should here then exposed as well (to let the user know  
that section is curretnly in). so lets try this...
https://phabricator.kde.org/T7037

Next I would need is to ask (maybe in plasma list): how compile all  
that stuff (plasma or even just kicker) and run it without messing up  
my live system, to play a bit and test my stuff. maybe there is an  
docu for that somewhere.

cheers chrys
Zitat von Mario Fux <[email protected]>:

> Am Donnerstag, 23. August 2018, 10:16:15 CEST schrieb [email protected]:
>> Howdy list,
>
> Good morning Chrys
>
> Nice to read from you, your experience with KDE software and Plasma and your
> planned future work.
>
>> My name is chrys. I m a visual impaired guy from germany. I m new to
>> this list.
>> Since Gnome gets more and more crippled i decide to change to KDE/ Plasma.
>> And it was one of best decisions I did. Plasma is awsome and i wont
>> miss it now (lol).
>> I use KWins zoom plugin.
>>
>> My girlfrind is blind. She currently switched to Mate for the same
>> reason like me. Mate is pretty accessible. But there are a lot of
>> stuff missing what we would suspect from an modern desktop (search in
>> menu and those stuff).
>> Plasma has all that. So i decide to try plasma using Orca.
>> My results: Its very slow, unstable and often hard to navigate. But it
>> worked at all! thats more that i was suspecting. What tells me that
>> the plasma shell already exposes the needed information to the at-spi
>> (cool).
>> Impressed by that results, I want start fixing up stuff for KDE/
>> Plasma/ QT a11y to make work for her (and ohters) one day.
>> So i read
>> https://community.kde.org/Get_Involved#Accessibility
>> and
>> https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Accessibility
>> what brings me to the point to say hello here in the list :).
>>
>> Sadly information is very rare in a11y stuff (not only for KDE). Thats
>> why i want to find others who maybe already have knowledge to Mentor
>> me or wants to work together with me to raise the motivation and fun
>>
>> :). on my way to get touched with that.
>>
>> So:
>> 1. Is there someone out there who wants to join my effort?
>> 2. Is there someone out there who can Mentor me a bit for my first steps?
>> 3. Is there an effort what already exists what i can maybe join?
>
> As I organized two Randa Meetings with the focus on Accessibility  
> and thus saw
> different KDE projects participate quite successfully (although I  
> never really
> managed to bring in a11y users to test the improvements) I think  
> that the most
> successfully way to further improve KDE software is to directly work with the
> different projects (and thus their mailing lists and IRC channels etc.).
>
> E.g. if you find stuff buggy or missing in KDE's Plasma just create the
> patches and add them to Phabricator and add Plasma people as reviewers. David
> Edmundson, Marco Martin and Co did quite some work on Plasma a11y in recent
> Randa Meetings. And thus if you need help or mentorship on Plasma ping these
> people too they are very supportive.
>
> But don't hesitate to ask here further questions too or just explain what you
> want to do or have done.
>
>> cheers chrys
>
> Looking forward hearing from you again.
>
> Best regards
> Mario
>
> PS: And for the case I can help you on IRC just ping me. I'm "unormal" there.