Re: Is there a project that is jovie successor? (fwd)

fenrir and tdsr are a couple more to check out and mbrola and festival can
maybe help the human speech situation though not easily configured.


On Thu, 21 Oct 2021, Gustav Degreef wrote:

> Actually, Jovie replaced ktts quite some years ago.=C2=A0 Qtspeech is sup=
posed to
> be a partial replacement, but there is no frontend program to manage the
> output of speechdispatcher (like Jovie). =C2=A0 e-speak works fine for me=
, but
> bothers everyne else who listens to my computer outptut (my partner and
> friends).=C2=A0 e-speak is clear enough, just does not sound like a perso=
n.=C2=A0 Good,
> I'll look into espeak-ng, thanks! Gustav
>
> On 10/21/21 11:04 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> > I had read somewhere ktts was supposed to have replaced jovie.  Also,
> > espeak-ng is a successor to espeak.  It's good you got any of this
> > working.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 04:36:27
> > From: Gustav Degreef <[email protected]> To: Simion
> > <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: Is there =
a
> > project that is jovie successor?
> >
> > Hi Simion,
> >
> > Thanks for your input and effort.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 I carefuly looked over =
everything you
> > mentioned, including the script but it has taken me a long time.?=C2=A0=
?=C2=A0 I only
> > have a
> > rudimentary??=C2=A0 knowledge of scripts.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 So modif=
ying or writing scripts
> > is beyond
> > my current possibility, especially with my vision problems.?=C2=A0?=C2=
=A0 But it
> > really
> > helped me to look everything over.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 I decided the best way=
 was to go back
> > to
> > trying to install it from the opensuse repos.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 I had faile=
d the first
> > time and
> > created a great confusion in my setup. But it was a spare "test" setup =
on a
> > separate partition.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 I spent a lot of time cleaning up the=
 repos,
> > updating and
> > cleaning up. And now Jovie works on opensuse 15.3!?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 The pa=
ckages come
> > from
> > unofficial repos, but someone else with the tech knowhow has put it
> > together.?=C2=A0?
> > I am "forced" to upgrade soon, since the opensuse 15.2 EOL is soon.?=C2=
=A0?=C2=A0 But
> > now I
> > can move forward hopefully for another 1.5 years, the life of 15.3 unti=
l a
> > better solution comes.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 I hope you or someone else can hel=
p come up with
> > a
> > replacement for Jovie.?=C2=A0?=C2=A0 Thanks for your efforts.?=C2=A0?=
=C2=A0 Gustav.
> > p.s. I'm posting back on the list in case it may help someone else.
> >
> > On 9/13/21 1:13 AM, Gustav Degreef wrote:
> >> On 8/30/21 7:15 PM, Simion wrote:
> >>> Hi Gustav,
> >>> I personally would try to compile it, if I am unable I would try firs=
t a
> >>> simple bash script, the issue with next script is that is not
> >>> queuing?????????=C2=A0 the tasks so you can get 2 speakers at the sam=
e time or
> >>> you
> >>> can edit the script to "killall" previous taks (so an application tha=
t
> >>> runs
> >>> in background would be needed to improve the experience)
> >>>
> >>> #! /bin/bash
> >>>
> >>> xclip -out -selection primary | xclip -in -selection clipboard
> >>> xsel --clipboard | tr "\n" " " | espeak
> >>> #end script
> >>>
> >>> or maybe python or nodejs
> >>> I am tempted to write something to do some cleanup on the input,
> >>> like when I want to read an entire reddit page of omments would be ni=
ce if
> >>> I
> >>> could?????????=C2=A0 clean it up?????????=C2=A0 first and remove all =
the
> >>> "reply/report
> >>> ..." buttons labels
> >>> The reason I decided that in future I would use espeak is because in =
my
> >>> current configuration jovie uses speech dispatcher and speech dispatc=
her
> >>> uses
> >>> espeak , Qt5 is a new extra layer so a new placed that could cause
> >>> problems
> >>> (but yes Qt5 would be nice to have if you plant to write a cross oper=
ating
> >>> system desktop application).
> >>>
> >>> I have no plans to upgrade from my system soon,?????????=C2=A0 maybe =
when I
> >>> will
> >>> upgrade my computer or I am forced to upgrade.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> You probably need to install and configure espeak, the language and s=
peed,
> >>> you can have a key bind to?????????=C2=A0 run the script, you can mod=
ify the
> >>> script
> >>> to?????????=C2=A0 add something like "killall espeak" to stop the pre=
vious
> >>>
> >>> Sorry I can't help more.
> >>>
> >>> Regards, Simion
> >>
> >> Hi Simion,
> >>
> >> Thanks for taking the time and for your effort.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On 8/28/21 11:42 PM, Gustav Degreef wrote:
> >>>> Hi Simion,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for your detailed reply.?????????=C2=A0 I use opensuse leap 1=
5.2 with
> >>>> KDE
> >>>> plasma 5.18.6, Qt 5.12.7. ?????????=C2=A0 Jovie continues to work fi=
ne even
> >>>> though
> >>>> it has been deprecated.?????????=C2=A0 However, it no longer works o=
n opensuse
> >>>> 15.3 and 15.2 end of life is in December this year. Someone has buil=
t
> >>>> packages for Jovie on the Open Build Service of Suse, but I could no=
t get
> >>>> it
> >>>> to install properly, I think it's due to the Qt changes, I got a
> >>>> dependency
> >>>> mess.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been trying to find a replacement for Jovie for 3 years at le=
ast,
> >>>> since it was clear it would no longer be maintained.?????????=C2=A0 =
Read Aloud
> >>>> is
> >>>> a plugin for Firefox that fills all the browser needs. Thunderbird a=
lso
> >>>> has
> >>>> a Read Aloud plugin, but it only works for single emails and top pos=
ted
> >>>> replies, list messages, etc.?????????=C2=A0 It reads only from top t=
o bottom
> >>>> without being able to select only parts of the mail.?????????=C2=A0
> >>>> LibreOffice
> >>>> has a text to speech plugin that even reads the clipboard contents, =
but
> >>>> it
> >>>> is cumbersome.?????????=C2=A0 Okular has a nice TTS function, but it=
 often
> >>>> starts
> >>>> two different simultaneous but voices of the same text which can't b=
e
> >>>> understood.?????????=C2=A0 Sometimes id functions fine.?????????=C2=
=A0 That is
> >>>> where I
> >>>> use TTS the most, and periodically to read out error messages, text =
boxes
> >>>> etc (for which Jovie is indispensable and for which I don't have an
> >>>> adequate
> >>>> substitute).
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions??????????=C2=A0 Perhaps to compile Jovie from a tar
> >>>> binary??????????=C2=A0 Or are you seriously thinking of building a r=
eplacement
> >>>> for
> >>>> Jovie? Thanks, Gustav.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 8/26/21 12:01 PM, Simion wrote:
> >>>>> Hi, no problem ,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> btw my name is Simion no Simon, don't worry it is OK just want to
> >>>>> mention
> >>>>> it to prevent issues like typos in emails
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I still use Jovie, from my fork with a few crash fixes
> >>>>> I have some scripts that I use directly espeak .
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was not yet forced to give up on Jovie but my conclussion was to =
not
> >>>>> use
> >>>>> Qt if I have to write my own replacement,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> since I would not need some crossplatform solution I could probably=
 make
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> python application , or even something that runs in the
> >>>>> browser????????????????????????????????????????????=C2=A0 or nodejs=
=2E
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for now on my distro I can still compile jovie , I have a keybo=
ard
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> multipmedia keys so my workflow is to copy paste stuff in clipboard=
 and
> >>>>> using my keys I can play/pause/resume. I still use espeak as backen=
d
> >>>>> with
> >>>>> voice speed set to max.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 8/26/21 12:37 PM, Gustav Degreef wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello Simon,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I saw your old message on the accessibility
> >>>>>> list.????????????????????????????????????????????=C2=A0 I also hav=
e serious
> >>>>>> eye
> >>>>>> problems, though I am not
> >>>>>> blind.????????????????????????????????????????????=C2=A0 I have be=
en using
> >>>>>> Jovie
> >>>>>> for most of my computer time for years and I am trying to find a
> >>>>>> replacement for it.????????????????????????????????????????????=C2=
=A0 In my
> >>>>>> situation a screen reader is not
> >>>>>> suitable.??????????????????????????????????????????? Excuse me for
> >>>>>> writing
> >>>>>> you directly.????????????????????????????????????????????=C2=A0 Ca=
n I ask
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>> more about this issue?????????????????????????????????????????????=
=C2=A0
> >>>>>> Gustav
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/12/18 10:18 AM, Simion wrote:
> >>>>>>> Hello, So I know that jovie is not be ported to KDE5 and that the=
 idea
> >>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>> to use QtSpeech, I can't find if someone started a replacement fo=
r
> >>>>>>> jovie
> >>>>>>> that uses QtSpeech yet.
> >>>>>>> I plan to investigate QtSpeech and see if it works properly on Li=
nux,
> >>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>> there is no such a project started is there any interest in it?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
>
>
>