Re: Getting Involved
"Benson Muite" <[email protected]> Wed, 04 Jun 2025 10:05:39 +0300
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Most of KDE uses Matrix, so the onboarding experience will probably be easier. Due to your location, you might also consider making an account at: https://element.seattlematrix.org/#/welcome IRC has lighter hardware utilization requirements but takes a little more time to learn. Developers do also respond to mail about their applications on their mailing lists - these are publicly searchable and archived. https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo Would suggest creating an account on a Matrix server first, then adjusting depending on who you need to contact. Finally, you might also reach out to people who have used Linux in Alaska. For example: - https://aklug.org/ - Jef Spaleta https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-fedora-project-= leader-jef-spaleta On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, at 9:32 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: > K I=E2=80=99m going to get those setup, should I only do one or all? > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 22:23 Benson Muite <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, at 9:09 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: >> > Thank you, I wasn't aware of those barriers. While I am aware that = the >> > university has strict rules around applications. I believe there co= uld >> be a >> > way to get around it, if it's used in an educational and >> > collaborative environment. The person I need to check with about th= is, I >> am >> > going to send them an email tomorrow since it's pretty late. Oh, an= d I >> > tried accessing the IRC and Matrix but the channel isn't accepting = anyone >> > else, is there a way for me to get around that? I think it'd be a l= ot >> > easier then email >> >> >> >> For Matrix, accounts on other servers will allow you to access rooms = on the >> kde matrix server. In addition to >> >> https://matrix.org/docs/chat_basics/matrix-for-im/#creating-a-matrix-= account >> , >> you could also make an account on one of the servers listed at: >> https://servers.joinmatrix.org/ >> >> https://apps.kde.org/neochat/ >> maybe helpful, in addition to other Matrix clients. >> >> For irc make an account at http://libera.chat >> https://apps.kde.org/konversation/ >> maybe helpful, though there are many other choices for IRC clients. >> >> > >> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 10:03=E2=80=AFPM Benson Muite <benson_muite@= emailplus.org >> > >> > wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, at 8:49 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: >> >> > Well I don=E2=80=99t think it would be useful particularly for U= AA, it=E2=80=99s just >> I >> >> > feel a collaboration could be set up depending on the person. An= d with >> >> > everything going on federally, a lot of folks at my work are pre= tty >> mad, >> >> > it=E2=80=99s the reason why I got my article. What I=E2=80=99m g= oing to do is reach >> out >> >> to >> >> > the engineers/tech departments, to see if anyone is interested in >> working >> >> > on this project. Along with connecting with student clubs, I am = also >> >> going >> >> > to install and test what I can with the applications you sent. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Oh, about the mentoring program you mentioned. I don't think it'= s a >> good >> >> > fit for me since I have dyscalculia. I've tried with no luck to = learn >> >> > coding. It's just not my thing, what it would be testing along w= ith >> >> setting >> >> > up times to chat around ideas, along with networking which i am = scary >> >> good >> >> > at. >> >> >> >> We do use mailing lists, apps also have chat channels, typically on >> Matrix >> >> or IRC. >> >> For Season of KDE, making students and people new to open source a= ware >> of >> >> it >> >> would be helpful. It provides a structured way for people to cont= ribute >> >> improvements >> >> to software that they use, these need not be limited to coding >> >> contributions. >> >> >> >> In the US, many applications require accessibility testing reports >> before >> >> they can be >> >> used in an institution. This can be a barrier to adopting open so= urce >> >> software since >> >> the administrative burden of procuring software which has accessib= ility >> >> testing done >> >> is low compared to getting open source software and improving it t= o meet >> >> accessibility >> >> standards for which the financial cost would likely be ultimately = lower, >> >> thereby allowing >> >> institutions to make more effective use of their limited funds. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 21:37 Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplu= s.org >> > >> >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 4, 2025, at 7:58 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: >> >> >> > I have heard of him, and it=E2=80=99s one of the reasons why = I want to get >> >> >> > involved, at the moment I don=E2=80=99t think the university = allows Linux >> to >> >> be >> >> >> > used, but I could be wrong. At the moment, I am running KDE o= n my >> >> Steam >> >> >> > Deck. But I=E2=80=99m planning on purchasing a think-pad x1 c= arbon Gen 10 >> >> soon. >> >> >> One >> >> >> > area I=E2=80=99d like to see get added is dictation. There's = an abandoned >> >> project >> >> >> > here --> https://github.com/abb128/LiveCaptions that could be >> forked >> >> >> into a >> >> >> > simple dictation tool, it's surprisingly, very accurate. >> >> >> >> >> >> This seems to build on another library which maybe worth >> incorporating >> >> into >> >> >> KDE applications: >> >> >> https://github.com/abb128/april-asr >> >> >> >> >> >> There are ongoing discussions withing KDE about using tools tra= ined >> on >> >> >> data of unknown origin. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Outside of that, I would need to look because right now there= 's >> not a >> >> >> lot, >> >> >> > and disability itself is a spectrum. without seeing what you = are >> >> already >> >> >> > working on, giving feedback might be hard. But I am more than >> willing >> >> to >> >> >> > test anything you can give me, as long as you make the install >> process >> >> >> easy >> >> >> > or give me command props. >> >> >> >> >> >> KDE applications are listed at: >> >> >> http://apps.kde.org >> >> >> Some will work on Windows and Mac. Applications that might be u= seful >> in >> >> a >> >> >> university >> >> >> setting include: >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/labplot/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/ktechlab/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/accessibilityinspector/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/krita/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/okular/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/kdenlive/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/digikam/ >> >> >> - https://apps.kde.org/glaxnimate/ >> >> >> >> >> >> It seems there are faculty members familiar with open source >> software: >> >> >> https://pradeeban.github.io/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Maybe you could contact them to see if there are ways to also i= nvolve >> >> >> students in >> >> >> improving software accessibility? Season of KDE ( >> >> >> https://mentorship.kde.org/sok/) >> >> >> would be one structured way to do this for KDE software that is >> useful >> >> at >> >> >> UAA. >> >> >> >> >> >> Krita, Kdenlive and Glaxnimate may also be useful to people in = your >> art >> >> >> department: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/academics/college-of-arts-and-sciences/dep= artments/art >> >> >> and to the student clubs in the art department: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/academics/college-of-arts-and-sciences/dep= artments/art/clubs/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Finally, in terms of testing, is there a KDE application you us= e and >> >> would >> >> >> be willing to help >> >> >> test? One-off contributions are welcome, but sustained involvem= ent is >> >> most >> >> >> helpful. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 20:28 Benson Muite < >> [email protected] >> >> > >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2025, at 11:15 AM, Bridger Reed-Lewis wrote: >> >> >> >> > Good evening, I am interested in becoming a tester, and he= lp >> >> >> collaborate >> >> >> >> > together on ideas to ensure accessibility in future kde >> iterations. >> >> >> Nate, >> >> >> >> > one of the board members, let me know about your sub-group= , and >> I >> >> >> >> emailed a >> >> >> >> > few folks listed as contacts. Just didn't hear back, figur= ing >> >> reaching >> >> >> >> out >> >> >> >> > directly to this email would be more effective. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Before getting involved though, I should introduce myself.= I am >> the >> >> >> >> > disability advisor for The University of Anchorage Alaska,= and >> >> while >> >> >> I am >> >> >> >> > doing this on my own time. I do hope to get the university >> involved >> >> >> since >> >> >> >> > we have a very active disability, and accessibility work g= roups >> at >> >> >> UAA. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Recently, the university wrote a article about me which go= es in >> >> detail >> >> >> >> > about myself you can read about it here... >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://www.uaa.alaska.edu/news/archive/2025/05/chd-disability-adviso= r-bridger-r-reed-lewis.cshtml >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I'm very passionate about what I do, and I believe Steam O= S as a >> >> whole >> >> >> >> > could be a massive benefit to ensure a better market share= , this >> >> comes >> >> >> >> with >> >> >> >> > some challenges though because while steam os is great for >> gaming, >> >> >> once >> >> >> >> > it's released to the masses later this year. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > The OS as a whole will have some disadvantages mainly the = lack >> of >> >> >> >> > accessibility tools, which as someone with a disability ha= s been >> >> the >> >> >> >> > largest reason they haven't moved fully to linux. Ended up= on >> Macs >> >> >> >> because >> >> >> >> > of how much i hate windows, but once thing apple has about= them >> is >> >> >> there >> >> >> >> > gold star for supporting disabilities in there OS. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for your interest. Are there any KDE applications tha= t you >> use >> >> >> where >> >> >> >> support could be better? Do you have any computer labs where >> linux >> >> is >> >> >> used >> >> >> >> or KDE applications are used? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> KDE e.V. recently appointed Ritchie Frodomar as accessibility >> >> engineer: >> >> >> >> https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2025q2/008193.h= tml >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > I also want this in Linux, and I'm here to help along >> >> >> >> > with assisting with networking with professionals to ensure >> >> >> >> communications >> >> >> >> > and collaboration with developers/companies alike. Let me = know >> if >> >> you >> >> >> >> have >> >> >> >> > any questions, and I hope to chat with you soon. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Sincerely, >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Bridger R. Reed-Lewis >> >> >> >> > Disability Advisor | Advocate | Speaker >> >> >> >> > He/Them >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>