Re: Wayland/Xlibre

Am 02.12.25 um 23:24 schrieb Tobias Leupold:
> Hi all,
>
> I just stumbled upon https://forum.artixlinux.org/index.php/topic,8955.0.html
> where some Artix user ranted about Plasma going "Wayland-only", and
> questioning if Plasma would choose the same path as Gnome (which was or will
> be actually removed from Artix due to hard dependencies on Systemd).
>
> I myself don't use Systemd distributions (Gentoo, Artix and Devuan for me, all
> with OpenRC), always using X. And I still don't really get the point of
> Wayland's raison d'être. I'm not really fully into this though. But with
> Xlibre raising, we apparently will get a X successor that will fix X's flaws
> without being Wayland – which still seems to be discussed controversially
> after all this years.
>
> So, without having a deep knowledge of all this, and without wanting to start
> some flame-war: What's the status of Plasma concerning Wayland and Xlibre? Why
> do we want to take sides to Wayland, even if Xlibre emerged recently?
>
> I'd love continuing seeing freedom of choice, may it be the init system or the
> display server. That's the whole point of what we do, no?
>
> Thanks for all insights about this!
>
> Cheers, Tobias

Hi,

I won't go into detail about the history and merits of Wayland vs X11, 
there's plenty of articles, blog posts, and conference talks out there 
that can do this much better than me.

I will point you to 
https://community.kde.org/Plasma/X11_Known_Significant_Issues though. 
Most of the items in that list are unfeasible to fix under X11.

As described in 
https://blogs.kde.org/2025/11/26/going-all-in-on-a-wayland-future/ 
Plasma will drop X11 in 6.8.

XLibre is not and will not be supported by Plasma in any way. Not only 
is it driven by people who demonstrate a lack of ability to properly 
maintain such a project (and show rather questionable world views), it 
also will not address any of the fundamental architectural flaws in X11.

Cheers

Nico