Re: "Modern" GUI style

Christoph Cullmann <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.devel.kate
Message-ID <200207232013.23063@cullmann>
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 20:28, Anders Lund wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The new GUI style is still needing a lot of work, if we are going to
> release it, and esp if it going to be the default.
>
> Most important, dragging tool views does not work. In some cases, you get
> empty kdockwidgets, and it is possible to cause kate to hang in a infinite
> loop during shutdown. To see, do
>
> * Open views in left and bottom dock areas.
> * Drag a view from the left area to a position above the bottom area.
> * Drag that view to one of the dock areas.
>
> Result: an empty KDockWidget, infinite loop during shutdown.
Could you retest that, have changed the docking stuff a bit now in katemainwindow,
the toolviews are now the only "dockin" place there.

>
> The button bars looks like shit (sorry), though that is a minor, easily
> fixable problem. However, the problems are
> * horizontal button bars downright dosen't work graphically
> * wrong colors are used. Normal colors (for button and inactive) should be
>   used.
> * 3D effects should be fixed, so that the button bars has clean borders and
>   the meaning and state of any part is clearly expressed in any
> circumstance.
>
> Some more serious considerations:
>
> The integration with KDockWidget is not good enough. KDockWidget presents
> some GUI elements that signals a behaviour, which should be adhered to.
>
> Dragging views indicates they can be dropped anywhere, but as indicated in
> the example in the beginning of this message, that is not working. So it
> should not be possible, not indicated where not working.
>
> I suggest it should be possible to tear off views.
>
> I can drag tool views by the header, but the view needs be active. I
> suggest the buttons made draggable to other button panes.
>
> If I drag a view to a button bar, a square is drawn to indicate its drop
> position, but the square is not erased after drop.
>
> The button bars has a splitter widget next to them when all views are
> hidden, with a resize cursor, but can not be resized in that situation. So,
> the splitter should not be drawn.
>
> I miss the option to have more views in the dock area, for example the file
> selector below the file list. I suggest when a passive button is activated,
> the area is split if all current views has the sticky button down, if not
> the first view with the sticky button up will be replaced.
>
> I think it is really important that we get things to look right and behave
> as the look suggests before a release. We have been recieving so many
> positive responses on kate lately, and Kate is suggested as a good editor
> for example in use.perl.org. So, it looks like we are about to make it to
> the list of really respected editors. Lets not loose that position again:)
>
> -anders
>
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Christoph Cullmann
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