Re: [Kolab-devel] Kolab 3.1

Tormen <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.kde.devel.kolab
Message-ID <52551ABA.8040409__24181.0322659605$1381309129$gmane$org@gmail.com>
I forgot to mention:
Yesterday before installing Kolab 3.1 sucessfully using both repos together,
I tried again to install kolab 3.1 only from the base repo (so without
the update repo) and it failed because of missing dependencies.

On 09/10/13 10:56, Tormen wrote:
> On 09/10/13 08:48, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 09, 2013 02:40:01 AM Tormen wrote:
>>> On 08/10/13 20:37, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
>>>> I've just successfully completed an "aptitude install kolab" on a
>>>> fresh Debian Wheezy system, configured to include "Kolab:3.1" and
>>>> "Kolab:3.1:Updates".
>>> I did NOT try with /updates/ (but only with Kolab:3.1) !
>>> ... because for me /updates/ are something additional / optional that
>>> comes after a base install ^^
>>>
>> Updates are good though, this is where future fixes will end up.
>>
>> For some additional speed as to what might get updated, 
>> Kolab:Development should *always* have the latest versions of things 
>> (but is unstable in that regard).
>
> Hmm. Your answer gives me the impression that you did not understand
> my point yet
> (very probably because of my poor english and/or because I am too
> sleep deprived!!).
>
> So I will try to be more clear :)
>
> Take for instance DEBIAN:
> To install a base debian system, you need this one line:
>
>     deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
>
> And this package repo is /self-contained/ and suffices to install a
> running Debian.
> Any unfulfilled packaged dependency within this Debian repository
> would be a /bug/.
>
> So to simply install a base system you do NOT need any sort of update
> sources like:
>     deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
>     # where the security will come from... once my debian is
> installed, but not to install it ^^
>
>     deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main
>     # where some day-to-day software will come in its latest version
> and glory (like libreoffice for instance), but again nothing you
> /need/ to have in your sources.list in order to install debian.
>
>
>> For some additional speed as to what might get updated, 
>> Kolab:Development should *always* have the latest versions of things 
>> (but is unstable in that regard).
>
> I still think that any inter-package repository dependency (from a
> base repo into an update repo) is a bug.
>
>     [1] deb http://obs.kolabsys.com:82/Kolab:/3.1/Debian_7.0/ /
>     [2] deb http://obs.kolabsys.com:82/Kolab:/3.1:/Updates/Debian_7.0/ /
>
> [2] can depend on things from [1] ... if to fix a bug or get new
> functionality there is a new dependency that has arise...
> [1] should on the other hand not depend on [2], or else:
>     This is not at all intuitive and conform how to how it usually works.
>     Which is why I am writing you this to see if this is really the
> dependency setup that you wanted.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Tormen.
>

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